Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!lethe!yunexus!ists!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!uwm.edu!uwvax!ub.d.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!dayton!jad From: jad@dayton.UUCP (J. Deters) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: X-10 switches used in 4-way circuit Summary: Use at one end only... Keywords: X-10 Message-ID: <7683@dayton.UUCP> Date: 9 Feb 91 05:27:42 GMT References: <463@sunpix.East.Sun.COM> <7523@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Reply-To: jad@dayton.DHDSC.MN.ORG (J. Deters) Organization: Department Store Division of DHC Lines: 54 >In article <463@sunpix.East.Sun.COM> cram@sunpix.east.sun.com (Marc W. Howard) writes: >-> Is there a way to use the X-10 three way switch in a 4-way (i.e., >->three or more switch controlled) circuit? I have one such circuit in my >->house that I'd like to control. I notice that you can buy the non-active >->half of the three way switch pair as a separate item; does this imply >->that there is a way to use two of them and the three-way master switch in >->a four way circuit? This may seem like an odd response, but do you need one used as a 4-way? Let's look at this schematically...(assuming ASCII is capable of rendering schematics...) hot o-----o o-------o o-----o o------o ~ ------/ X X X \-------, o-----o o-------o o-----o o------o | 120 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ (load) VAC 3-way 4-way 4-way 4-way 3-way | | ~ -------------------------------------------------' neutral Each 4-way switch consists of a DPTD switch wired the following way: .---------, | | >------o o ,--o `-----> from 3-way `----/-. to next 3-way ,---' \ >------o o o .-----> | | `---------' (This crude drawing is supposed to represent the wires from the first 3-way being crossed and connected to the other pair of contacts in the switch.) Since this is the way a typical n-way switching circuit is wired, what happens if you replace either one of the 3-way switches with an X-10 controlled device? You have remote control. Toggling any *one* of the above switches controls the load. I don't understand why you would need remote control of more than one switch to perform only the one function; or why you would specifically have to use X10 to control one of the 4-ways. I'm sorry if I missed your point, but I am not sure what your specific application is (if it's not this). -j -- J. Deters INTERNET: jad@dayton.DHDSC.MN.ORG ATT: 612-375-3116 UUCP: ...!bungia!dayton!jad USPS: 700 Nicollet Mall/MIS 1060 ICBM: 44^58'36"N by 93^16'14"W Minneapolis, MN 55402