Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: jtchew@csa2.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: 33 TO 0 : Air-to-Air Combat Summary: Need to wait for details we may never get to see Message-ID: <1991Feb12.014349.9503@cbnews.att.com> Date: 12 Feb 91 01:43:49 GMT References: <1991Feb9.030115.636@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA Lines: 18 Approved: military@att.att.com From: jtchew@csa2.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) >Planes downed: 33 to 0 >That is the Coalition-to-Iraqi score so far in Air-to-Air combat kills. >The USSR must be getting embarrassed! Hmm... Not to denigrate the Coalition pilots, but embarrassment depends on the details. Judging from news reports, some fraction of the 33 kills have been scored on Iraqi planes going hell-for-leather towards the Iranian border and not even trying to engage. This may be "poultry in motion," but if it's true that 120+ Iraqi planes have fled to Iran, I'm inclined to give 'em the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're under orders to do this. --Joe "Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"