Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Warrent vs. regular officers. Message-ID: <1991Feb12.015621.11055@cbnews.att.com> Date: 12 Feb 91 01:56:21 GMT References: <1991Feb9.033425.4606@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa. Lines: 50 Approved: military@att.att.com From: bcstec!shuksan!major@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Schmitt) > From: cyclist@hubcap.clemson.edu (Barry Johnson) > Could someone tell the distiction between warrent officers and "regular" > officers? Simple distinction: Officers are commissioned. Warrant Officers are appointed. In rank order Warrants are below second lieutenants and 'above' sergeants major. In theory, Warrants are 'technicians'. Most Warrants are helicoptor pilots, maintenance officers, intelligence (order of battle, interrogators, photo interpreters, counterintelligence), and Military Police investigators and criminal investigators (CID). Almost all come up through the enlisted ranks - the majority put in for warrant appointment when they are Staff Sergeants (E6) with about 10 years service. Helicoptor pilots are a little different - they go through "Warrant Officer Candidate" flight school after joining the service. Warrants cannot 'command' but they can supervise other technicians. They wear the basic uniform of an officer (silver bar with black squares, black stripe on pants and sleeve), they are saluted by enlisted people, addressed as 'sir' by subordinates and 'mister' by seniors. Their service cap has gold braid and they wear a unique warrant officer insignia - eagle surrounded by a wreath - as a cap device and collar insignia. Warrant Officer 1 (WO1) "Wobbly One" Silver bar - one black square Chief Warrant Officer 2 (CWO2) "Chief" Silver bar - two black squares Chief Warrant Officer 3 (CWO3) "Chief" Silver bar - three black squares Chief Warrant Officer 4 (CWO4) "Chief" Silver bar - four black squares [did they ever institute the Master Chief Warrant 5?????) ----- Once, when I promoted one of my photo interpreter warrants to CWO4, with 28 years of army service, I commented - "Gee, Chief, one more promotion you'll be a second lieutenant!!!" I thought he was going to kill me. ---- Other services had warrants in technical fields but I heard a while back that they are phasing them out - anybody add anything about Air Force, Marine, Navy warrant officers? mike schmitt