Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: jgd@Dixie.Com (John G. DeArmond) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Pouring concrete (as regards Iraqi shelters) Keywords: concrete Message-ID: <1991Feb13.030550.24632@cbnews.att.com> Date: 13 Feb 91 03:05:50 GMT References: <1991Feb11.043911.28147@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Rapid Deployment Systems (making go-fast things and things that-go fast) Lines: 40 Approved: military@att.att.com From: jgd@Dixie.Com (John G. DeArmond) jln@elaine39.stanford.edu (Jared Nedzel) writes: >As for times, well, a 36m slab of concrete would certainly have to be placed >in lifts, with time between lifts (just how much time, I'm not sure). >It will take somewhere between several hours and a day or two for the >concrete to set, but it will take significantly longer for it to gain >strength. You get a lot of strength after a week, but you won't reach >design strength for a month or so. I can't say how long it would take >to pour 36m of concrete, except to say that it would be a good long >while (months). My first "real" job was as a heavy equipment operator at the construction site of the Sequoyah Nuclear Plant in Chattanooga, TN. More specifically, I ran the ammonia-cooled ice plant that was part of a field-erected concrete batch plant. I started my job a couple of weeks before the pour of the reactor building foundation. This was a slab about 200 ft in diameter and 35 ft thick. This slab was laid as a continuous pour. It took about 3 weeks of around the clock pouring to lay it. To put this in perspective, the batch plant was about 6 stories high, received its raw materials by river barge and mixed a truckful in a single batch. The ice plant alone had 200 hp motors running the ammonia compressors. In other words, we could make a LOT of concrete. It'd be hard for me to imagine a batch-plant this large being transported out in the desert away from grid power. I suppose it could be done. I think that the 3 week period for a pour this size is probably the minimum one could expect. John -- John De Armond, WD4OQC | "Purveyors of speed to the Trade" (tm) Rapid Deployment System, Inc. | Home of the Nidgets (tm) Marietta, Ga | {emory,uunet}!rsiatl!jgd |"Politically InCorrect.. And damn proud of it