Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: dnwiebe@cis.ohio-state.edu (Dan N Wiebe) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Tank killing crowbars Message-ID: <1991Feb13.032640.27454@cbnews.att.com> Date: 13 Feb 91 03:26:40 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 45 Approved: military@att.att.com From: dnwiebe@cis.ohio-state.edu (Dan N Wiebe) *** PLAUSIBLE HEARSAY WARNING *** The way I heard it, these orbital crowbars were based on the concept of hypervelocity. They were intended to hit the target at a speed faster than the speed at which sound travels in whatever material the crowbar is made of--so that the bar is "fed" into the target faster than the deforming impact shock wave can climb back out. In effect, or so I hear, while this phenomenon is in progress (the bar slows down rapidly, of course, once it hits the target), the bar can be considered infinitely hard--that is, harder than the armor against which it is being used. My source used the familiar "knife through butter" phrase. The problem lies in accelerating the rod to hypervelocity speeds in the first place; I think that's probably why they're put in orbit (18 miles per second or some such ungodly speed) and then deflected onto a target, rather than being dropped from a B-52. I don't know what the speed of sound in steel is, but I'd guess it's more than 400 m/sec. Another problem would be guidance. Unless you used one heck of a shove to deflect the thing from orbit, it'd come in at a pretty flat angle, following a trajectory probably several hundred miles long. Acquiring a tank-sized target through several hundred miles of atmosphere while you're moving eighteen miles every second would be challenging, to say the least, without even bothering with reentry ionization problems, which, due to the required speed, would probably continue pretty much up till impact. If you could solve those two problems, though, tacking an explosive charge on the rod would seem to be gilding the lily, so to speak. Disclaimer: the stuff in the first paragraph is pretty much a paraphrase of things I heard from somebody who has a doctorate in physics and ought to know. The rest of it is personal speculation on my part. Plug: Footfall is a wonderful book, as is Lucifer's Hammer and most of the other Niven/Pournelle books. (Other than being a Niven freak, I'm not connected with either of them in any way.) Shalom, Dan Wiebe dnw@rsch.oclc.org