Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: neil@progress.COM (Neil Galarneau) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Air to Air ARM? (was Re: AMRAAM) Message-ID: <1991Feb13.220140.4139@cbnews.att.com> Date: 13 Feb 91 22:01:40 GMT References: <1991Feb7.015232.3245@cbnews.att.com> <1991Feb13.031334.25993@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Progress Software Corp., Bedford, MA Lines: 34 Approved: military@att.att.com From: neil@progress.COM (Neil Galarneau) >From: Adam Curtin [nice stuff on Beyond Visual Range missile kills (or the lack thereof) deleted] >"In 1969, the DOD tried to test an air-to-air ARM developed from the Sparrow >airframe under the project name Brazo. At modest cost, three test firings >destroyed three target drones. [Defense Dept. analyst Thomas Amlie says] the >program was cancelled when it could be interpreted as eliminating large radar >fighters such as the F-14 and F-15, since the tests proved you could not use a >radar fighter in combat when up against ARMs." I find it difficult to believe that the armed forces would send up all these planes as sitting ducks. It seems to me that hitting a non-maneuvering Early Warning Radar is much easier than hitting a Mach 1 or 2 fighter or a Mach 3? Phoenix (not that the Phoenix is much smaller than a fighter :-). Also, where is the Soviet version? On the other hand an air-to-air ARM does seem like an obvious thing to try. >``The French sell a missile to the entire Third World that will hit an >Aegis every time. We are building a peacetime military that will never be >effective in combat.''" What is this French missile that will hit the ship which protects the carrier from missile hits (Aegis)? In confusion, Neil neil@progress.com