Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: eachus@aries.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: 33 TO 0 : Air-to-Air Combat Message-ID: <1991Feb13.221236.5621@cbnews.att.com> Date: 13 Feb 91 22:12:36 GMT References: <1991Feb9.030115.636@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA. Lines: 37 Approved: military@att.att.com Full-Name: News Service From: eachus@aries.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) The main problem faced by the Iraqi pilots is probably that they were trained in the Soviet style of air-to-air fighting, which is primarily ground controlled. I am sure that the highest priority targets during the initial attack were these ground control facilities, so any pilots that did get up were immediately cut off from supervision. Since the initial attacks were at night, any Iraqi pilots who wished to engage allied pilots had no way of knowing if they were attempting an "own goal," so my guess is that only the less prudent and inexperienced pilots attempted to engage allied planes the first night, the rest fleeing to northern Iraq. Having said all that, the 33-0, or whatever it is now, ratio should have the Soviets very worried. Even if the main advantage we enjoy is due to a more effective strategy, it is far easier to fix a hardware problem than to design a new strategy and retrain all of your personnel--even if the new strategy requires no new equipment. Remember the story from the Top Gun school where instructors getting waxed in F-5's added Fuzzbusters to give themselves a radar warning capability? Since the pilots knew HOW to use radar warnings, the hardware fix could be used the next day. Note that a lot of the equipment flying in the Gulf was designed and built specifically to implement the American battle plan. The F-117A, for example, would be of little use to the Soviets under their current doctrine, but was a key part of the American plan. Robert I. Eachus Our troops will have the best possible support in the entire world. And they will not be asked to fight with one hand tied behind their back. President George Bush, January 16, 1991