Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: thos@softway.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Pouring concrete (as regards Iraqi shelters) Summary: Full chapter and verse Message-ID: <1991Feb21.031753.12785@cbnews.att.com> Date: 21 Feb 91 03:17:53 GMT References: <1991Feb15.065035.8570@cbnews.att.com> <1991Feb18.054239.11447@cbnews.att.com> <1991Feb19.032729.18565@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: Softway Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia Lines: 53 Approved: military@att.att.com From: thos@softway.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen) In article <1991Feb18.054239.11447@cbnews.att.com> yarvin-norman@CS.YALE.EDU (Norman Yarvin) writes: > >A figure was mentioned of a German shell which penetrated 36m of Maginot Line >concrete. > >Does anybody know whether this rumor was true? > Ain't no rumour. Following taken without permission from (you guessed it) "The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ammunition", by Ian Hogg. Spelling errors etc. are mine. Rochling Shell "Special type of anti-concrete shell developed by the Rochling Eisenund und Stahl-werke of Dusseldorf, Germany during WW2. Conventional anti concrete shells of the period were full calibre shells with blunt points; the Rochling designers reasoned that better penetration would be achieved by a shell of small calibre, but delivering a heavier blow by virtue of being much longer than normal and thus concentrating its weight into a smaller area of contact. They accordingly designed a long sub-calibre shell with a discarding sabot at the shoulder and a sabot at the rear which enclosed a set of four flexible fins. When fired, the shell left the muzzle and discarded the two sabots, allowing the fins to spring out and stabilize it. It was fired from a 21cm rifled gun, but the fins soon damped out the spin. The Rochling shell was not used against the Maginot line during the 1940 invasion of France, since it was not necessary. After the occupation of France and Belgium a number of trials were made against fortifications and one record of these tests reports of a shell which passed through 3m of earth [ sorry, in the original posting I said 5m ], 36m of concrete, a layer of broken stone, the roof of a subterranean chamber then into the floor beneath and 5m into the earth beneath the floor. This was a test of an inert shell; a live shell would have detonated in the subterranean chamber if correctly fused. Achievement of this kind of performance demanded high grade chrome- vanadium steel for the shell and precise manufacture. 8000 shells were made and stockpiled, but after that it was hardly used. A few were fired against the fortress of Brest-Litovsk during the invasion of Russia in 1941, but use of the Rochling shell was then forbidden by Hitler on the grounds that a specimen might fall into enemy hands and be copied for use against Germany. From then on the shells could only be used with his permission, and since this was rarely requested and even more rarely granted, the existence of the shell was gradually forgotten." -- thos cohen |Softway Pty Ltd "Stopping to pick up passengers would disrupt |ACSnet: thos@softway.oz the timetable" - Alderman Cholerton, on why|UUCP: ...!uunet!softway.oz!thos the council's buses didn't stop for passengers|Internet: thos@softway.oz.au