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From: fester@cs.washington.EDU (Lea Fester)
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Subject: Re: "Scholarly objective evaluations of AA."
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Date: 20 Feb 91 22:17:15 GMT
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In article <666712518@lear.cs.duke.edu> gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) writes:
>
>And I tell you that Jews had broken into the main-stream society long before
>there was affirmative action around

We could quibble about what you mean by "broken into the main-stream",
I suppose, but unless you mean no more than that *some* Jews were able
to make it *in spite of* being Jewish, you are wrong.  There were
anti-Jewish (as well as anti- other minorities) quotas at colleges in
the US as late as the late 1960's, for example, and it is my opinion
that it was the same social consciousness that generated affirmative
action that was responsible for eliminating these quotas.

, and that affirmative action is used,
>in practice, to set quotas against asians.

Categorically, with this precise intent ?  Even categorically without
intent ?  Come off it.

Lea