Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!njin!njitgw!mars.njit.edu!matth From: matth@mars.njit.edu (Matthew Harelick) Newsgroups: trial.talk.politics.peace Subject: Re: Peace? Message-ID: <2362@njitgw.njit.edu> Date: 19 Feb 91 03:58:02 GMT Sender: news@njitgw.njit.edu Distribution: na Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology Lines: 43 Lets take a look at some of the excuses Bush uses for us to go to war: 1. Iraq violated a foreign nation's right to sovereignty. The U.S. violated the sovereignty rights of Grenada, Panama, Liberia, Libya, and Iraq in the last six years. In the case of Panama , the U.S. overthrew an unfriendly government and kidnapped their leader. In the case of Iraq, we are demonstrating to Hussein that it is wrong to violate a nation's sovereignty by violating Iraq's sovereignty. The more apparent idea that the U.S. is illustrating is that there is a Western double standard that says that the NATO countries can invade other countries when they feel its necessary but this freedom is not allowed to third world nations. 2. Iraq possesses a vast arsenal of biological and chemical weapons, and will be able to use his nuclear technology to build nuclear weapons, thereby becoming a danger to the region. Where did he get all of this technology? The French built his nuclear reactors, and the W. Germans built his bunkers and ` sold him the Bio/Chemical weapons. The U.S. helped build up his forces to fight Iran. Hussein used these weapons on his own people , the Kurds, and NATO still continued to support him. All of a sudden Hussein makes a decision independently , against the wishes of George Bush and he becomes the World Enemy. When I stated a while back that this war is to clean up a NATO foreign policy mess, its the above point I am talking about. Our soldiers are going to be victims of American and European BioChem weapons and technology. George Bush so boldly spoke about bring Hussein up on charges of War Crimes, he will have to bring NATO up on charges of aiding and abedding a War Crime. 3. The United States is fighting to protect freedom and democracy. Yeah, right , this is the oldest one in the book. Saudi Arabia is not a democracy, neither is Kuwait, Jordan, or Syria. Israel is , however it would not be under attack by Iraq if the U.S. did not start bombing Baghdad. There are reports of brutality committed by Iraqi soldiers in Kuwait. This is only a short term situation and if someone is really interested in stopping brutality throughout the world, they should read the Amensty International book. This book has about 165 pages listing nations where torture goes on everyday. I don't see the U.S. intervening in all of these nations. In some cases the casualty rate of U.S. intervention would be lower than the number of soldiers injured before the ground war in the Persian Gulf. In addition if the U.S. was so interested in fighting for democracy, then we should have overturned the apartheid government of South Africa, which still continues to have a racist separatist government. - More to follow in a while - Matt