Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!hybrid!scifi!bywater!uunet!hayes!tnixon
From: tnixon@hayes.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Problems between T2500 and Hayes V series modems?
Message-ID: <3806.27c84fe1@hayes.uucp>
Date: 24 Feb 91 23:44:33 GMT
References: <145821@pyramid.pyramid.com>
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA
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In article <145821@pyramid.pyramid.com>,
lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes: 

>    It is unfortunate that the CCITT can't treat the "V" as a
>    trademark and sue the pockets off manufacturers who use
>    CCITT-like terms for their products...when in fact the
>    product is proprietary and couldn't talk to a REAL compliant
>    product if it had to.  
> 
>    Hayes makes good modems, but IMHO they deserve a resounding
>    slap right upside the head for naming a product such that the
>    technically uninformed buyer would assume that it in any way
>    could talk to a REAL CCITT modem at the advertised rate.

At least let me say "don't blame me!"  Before the Hayes V-series 
modems were announced, the "working name" was "Very Smartmodem", and 
lots of people inside Hayes still call them generically "Very" for 
short.  When the marketing types got hold of this, they said "naw, 
not catchy enough", and, somehow, same up with "V-series".  Well, I 
am _not_ "in the loop" for product names at Hayes, and when I 
finally was made aware of this, is was too late -- all kinds of 
commitments made.  Being Hayes' representative in the CCITT, I, of 
course, made it known that there would be considerable confusion 
with CCITT "V series" devices (the CCITT doesn't hyphenate it, if 
that makes any difference [of course it doesn't :-(] ).  Believe me, 
I've been throughly beat up about this by my counterparts from other 
modem companies, but I nevertheless continue to plead my innocense.  
There was sincerely NO attempt to cause confusion between Hayes 
V-series and CCITT V series; it's just that those who made the 
decision to change "Very" into "V series" were completely unfamiliar 
with the practice of referring to modems which comply with CCITT 
standards generically as "V series".

Doubt if you wish, but that's the Gods-honest truth.

	-- Toby

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