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Subject: ANS TC/89-005  ZEN 1.60 Implementation
Message-ID: <2408.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us>
Date: 21 Feb 91 23:30:59 GMT
Organization: (n.) to be organized.  But that's not important right now.
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 Date: 02-17-91 (21:02)              Number: 1244 of 1247 (Echo)
   To: RAY DUNCAN                    Refer#: NONE
 From: GUY GEORGE                      Read: 02-18-91 (09:18)
 Subj: COMMENT                       Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
 Conf: FORTH (58)                 Read Type: GENERAL (+)

     The ZEN stuff looks interesting but a bit buggy.. not quite as
 poished as the FPC 3.5 but looks quite a bit faster. Nice use of
 segments too as far as I can see. -Gotta run.

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 Date: 02-17-91 (23:22)              Number: 1245 of 1247 (Echo)
   To: RAY DUNCAN                    Refer#: NONE
 From: GUY GEORGE                      Read: 02-18-91 (09:19)
 Subj: COMMENT                       Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
 Conf: FORTH (58)                 Read Type: GENERAL (+)

         Looks bogus, I'm afraid.

         The ZEN1_10.ZIP file contains a ZEN.EXE file of 150K that is
         80 percent zeroes. It appears that the EXE file was never
         written correctly, but was a COM type file (RAM image) that
         got renamed to EXE.

         I was looking for hidden vocabularies etc. whith a disk
         editor when I found this out. Thus ends another love afair.

         I like the Assembler stuff in the source listings
         though. I may try to get the assembler I have now to do that
         quality of stuff.

         Just thought I'd let you know.. in case you know someone who
         could fix it. It should be about 35K at the most. It is a
         bare-bones system.

         (I had a bit of heartburn over the seemingly excessive header
         space wasted with duplicated names also. I am not sure yet,
         but I think that duplicated stuff should have been thrown out
         after assembly or something. Oh, well.)

         For what it's worth, I hope the ZEN does not become the ANSI
         standard. It deviates too much from the grass-roots,
         home-brew type of programming language that has gotten a lot
         of us interested in the language in the first place.

         I will learn more about what is going on in the real world
         as my budget permits, though. Thanks again. -Guy (Paso Robles)

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