Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!dkuug!daimi!pilgrim From: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games Subject: Re: Autodial to your local bbs. Lemmings has been released long ago. Message-ID: <1991Feb22.014011.16111@daimi.aau.dk> Date: 22 Feb 91 01:40:11 GMT References: <19040@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1991Feb16.193252.20795@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <19052@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1991Feb18.051008.11300@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <52197@cornell.UUCP> <2323@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> <62819@bbn.BBN.COM> Sender: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark Lines: 44 t22918@ursa.calvin.edu (Matt Ranney) writes: < Well, some things about the amigauser/pirate milieu I basically agree with what you save, just want to add my .25 danske kroner ($.02) The idea with the deferred copy protection is great, but it may be hard. And it would be more suited for some game types than for others. Some problems: It is harder to make several copy protections - that is independent ones - when you disable one of them, the other two still works. - Copyprotections can be hard to hide (the mechanism); I guess the crackers have standard ways of looking for the testing stuff. But the idea is great: That you miss important parts of the game. It can be done in many ways, ever so slightly. Like the pirate player is Just that bit more unlucky in the places that counts. I'm not going to defend piracy, but have you(the general reader of this)ever thought about, if it went both ways ? Imagine a game company could be dragged in the court for releasing a really bad game, and still advertise telling you what a great game you now MusT buy! Guess it will never be true; it is still legal to make poor movie and receive money from people that wastes 2 hours of their lives on it. :-) Oh, Yes, before I forget. I can confirm what you say about collectors and gamers, from what I have experienced myself. But it is somewhat more complex, at least what I have seen. As it seems to me(Denmark, Europe), the 50 disks that the GAmer owns, is more likely to be 100-200. And there are several serious applications among them.(But I know of GameOnlyAmiganoids too). And turn those flamers off. I'm only telling you of what I know, not what I am. I find relief in the fact, that there are games like Moria that are public domain.(I know. It does not use much more than the memory of the amiga. but..) The prices of software is too high, in europe in denmark in my opinion. It irritates me, that I *have* to stick to budget releases in shops here. Luckily it is strange games, that sometimes go all cheap(like 1/7 the original price). I got archipelagos and anarchy this way, as an example. -- From the notorious Jakob Gaardsted, Computer Science Department Bed og arbejd ! University of Aarhus, Jylland (!) (Pray and work!)