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From: knauer@cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase)
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Subject: Re: File Sys chars
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Date: 21 Feb 91 18:12:35 GMT
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Tabakal@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU writes:

[and before that, Tim meekins wrote:]
>> One comment, How about getting rid of those pesky '!' in the filenames.
>> My Unix shell doesn't like them. I can only access the files after
>> DLing by using wildcards, such as *Index instead of !Index.
>Sorry, no can do.  That's the standard char we use to differentiate
>between regular files in the archives and the archive maintenance files.

Todd, did you ever work for the Department of Motor Vehicles?  :-)

Either the differentiation is done by humans, in which case you can change the
character to something more unix-friendly, or it's machine-differentiated, in
which case you can change (if it's well-written) ONE CHARACTER and switch to
something more unix-friendly.

Other than the fact that ! has a special meaning under most shells, I guess
there's nothing formally preventing you from using it with the new archive
under Unix; besides, you'll quickly become a whiz at all the nuances of 
quoting metacharacters in the shell.  Hope it doesn't interfere too much with
getting work done. :)

>But, you can always type GET "!Index" and your Unix system will pass the
>line on exactly to the other file system as per the RFC.

Also, if you specify a filename after the name of the file you're getting,
ftp will save it under that filename locally.  Better yet, just type

get "!Index" " | more"      or
get "!Index" " | grep -i TelcomGS"

and don't bother saving the list on your local machine at all...

>>Tim Meekins
>    Todd A. Bakal

Rob
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