Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!gandp!rg From: rg@gandp (Dick Gill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr Subject: The 8mm Gigabyte Gap Message-ID: <343@gandp> Date: 22 Feb 91 17:05:24 GMT Reply-To: rg@gandp.UUCP (Dick Gill) Organization: Gill & Piette, Inc. Lines: 57 A client with a 32/650 (2.1.1) with about 880MB on-line disc capacity (about 747MB used) recently purchased an NCR 8mm tape drive (6091-2001-7190) with the thought that they could easily back up their entire system to a single tape. That's what I thought when I sold it to them, but I now have real doubts. First some facts. The current status of the discs (from df -t) is: /usr/acct1 (/dev/dsk/15s1): 50972 blocks 64937 i-nodes total: 572320 blocks 65488 i-nodes /usr/acct (/dev/dsk/14s1): 36688 blocks 60763 i-nodes total: 572320 blocks 65488 i-nodes / (/dev/dsk/38s1): 179462 blocks 54000 i-nodes total: 616874 blocks 65488 i-nodes The tapes being used are 376 foot 8mm tapes from Exabyte (NCR supplies does not have these tapes!!) Exabyte says that this is the longest tape made for this drive. The backup is run from crontab and uses cpio in a script that has worked for me for years. (I did have to remove blocking through dd to get it to run with the drive) Now the story. When the drive was first installed, their disc usage was slightly higher than now, and they got error 28's (I think I remember this correctly) near the end of the backup. CODAR mulled it over for a couple days and finally decided that the problem was that the "sparse" (aka "holely") files on the system were being expanded by cpio and thus exceeding the capacity of the tape. While some large files of that type are on the system, I had not experienced this problem before with backups to regular 9-track or casette tapes. Still, something was fishy; I didn't see how these files would drive the tape past its (advertised) capacity of 2.1GB. To quote the NCR product writeup, "..this tape drive uses compact cartridges to store up to 2.1 Gigabytes of user data on one tape (maximum formatted capacity)." To get a better handle on the problem, I said: dd if=/dev/rmt/1yy of=/dev/null and, when I got the results 6 hours later, guess what? EOF occurs at about 1.5 GB; got the same result with another new tape! Is this right? Where is the missing 0.6 GB of capacity? Inquiring minds (including my client) want to know. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dick Gill Gill & Piette, Inc. (703)761-1163 ..uunet!gandp!rg Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com