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From: liam@cs.qmw.ac.uk (William Roberts;)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: New UUCP for A/UX?
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Date: 7 Feb 91 01:05:51 GMT
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In <1991Feb6.005529.3640@servalan.uucp> rmtodd@servalan.uucp (Richard Todd) 
writes:

>Apple already knows about this bug; I got a fixed binary in the mail from
>a guy at Apple after I yelled about it.  If enough of you will yell about it,
>maybe they'll post the fixed binary to aux.support.apple.com.  It worked for
>mkshlib, hey...

You forget that sound doesn't carry over water... 

I don't even get the common courtesy of email acknowledgements to bug reports:
not even automatically generated acknowledgements. When the machine to which
bug-reports should be sent screwed up its mail tables, my bug reports bounced
and the best response I got from Cupertino was "we think you should FTP 
sendmail x.y.z and try again". Perhaps comp.unix.aux should have just a US
distribution - much of the rest of A/UX feels that way to me here in
England much of the time, and recent postings suggest that things are worse
elsewhere in Europe.

>...
>Geez, people still run with /bin/rmail?  The first thing I did was toss the
>entire rmail/sendmail system and install smail 2.5 and deliver.  Deliver seems
>to be a lot more robust in its lock handling, and if you can get everyone on
>your system to use a real Mail User Agent instead of mailx, you can use one
>of the kernel locking protocols instead of the ".lock" kludge...

If anyone is interested, we run MMDF, plus own own local bulletin board system.
For netnews we run nn talking to an nntp server. Our most interesting 
mail-related trick was writing a proper Mac editor for creating mail messages 
which can be used by mail systems which expect UNIX-like editors: ones that 
quit when the user has finished creating the message for example...
It is a cut-down version of the TESample code from MacDTS, using their A/UX 
version - not a lot of crazy features but it works fine.
--

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