Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!apple!decwrl!sgi!calcite!vjs From: vjs@calcite.UUCP (Vernon Schryver) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: SECURITY BUG IN INTERACTIVE UNIX SYSV386 Summary: I'm impressed Message-ID: <115@calcite.UUCP> Date: 21 Feb 91 17:42:21 GMT References: <113@calcite.UUCP> <446@bria> <15342@uudell.dell.com> Organization: Rhyolite Software, Mountain View, CA Lines: 17 In article <15342@uudell.dell.com>, mjhammel@Kepler.dell.com (Michael J. Hammel) writes: > ...[many reasonable words deleted].... > Michael J. Hammel | mjhammel@{Kepler|socrates}.dell.com > Dell Computer Corp. | {73377.3467|76424.3024}@compuserve.com I'm overwhelmed. Mr. Hammel's note seems honest and accurate. My long experience with "QA departments" in more than 1 or 2 companies is that he is one of the fabled good test people. The other 95% and their management make a good case for eugenics. Those are the ones who claim to think a test plan would find all bugs, who never find one real bug on their own, and who file zillions of "control-D logs out the shell" reports and require senior management intervention before they'll close them. It's too bad Mr. Hammel is in TX; I can't point my daytime employer's recruiters at him. Maybe I should look into Dell's SV for my PC. Vernon Schryver, vjs@calcite.uucp