Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ico!rcd From: rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: posting fixes, license, and the u-area bug Summary: hmmm Message-ID: <1991Feb23.080050.21181@ico.isc.com> Date: 23 Feb 91 08:00:50 GMT References: <7667@crash.cts.com> <1991Feb21.141349.26015@virtech.uucp> <1141@gistdev.gist.com> Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Boulder, CO Lines: 43 flint@gistdev.gist.com (Flint Pellett) writes: > cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: > >This will take time. I too thought posting the fix would be appropriate, but > >if there is a licensing agreement that stands in the way, there is nothing that > >ISC can do about it. > > Wrong. ISC can go to AT&T and say "Please give us permission to > violate the licensing agreement and post this fix."... #ifndef reality Wait...OK, I get it! Marty should just spend a little of her copious free time, or perhaps do it on her lunch hour...just drop by the local AT&T office and have a friendly chat, say "By the way, we've got this little problem, so would you folks mind if we posted, oh, say a couple hundred Kb of the code we license from you?" I'm sure AT&T won't mind if we say "pretty please". #else Folks, I really *do*not* intend to be snide. But let's keep some per- spective here. - Even if no other considerations applied, and even if the corrected code applied to os.o alone, it would require a quarter meg of code. A posting has to be done in 7-bit, so normal tools will expand this to a third of a meg. A posting that large is rude, crude, and socially unacceptable to the point of overt hostility. - ISC is not small, but AT&T has more lawyers than ISC has employees. Even if approval could be granted, it would take far longer than it will take for ISC to put out a fix. You DO NOT just go ask a complicated question with various contractual implications of a large organization and get a quick answer. The time to answer such questions is measured in months. - AT&T is serious about its "intellectual property rights" in the broad sense. I assume you folks have seen the postings regarding AT&T contacting commercial members of the X consortium for roy- alties on using backing store? Think about it. #endif -- Dick Dunn rcd@ico.isc.com -or- ico!rcd Boulder, CO (303)449-2870 ...But is it art?