Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!csus.edu!ucdavis!csusac!unify!openlook!openlook-request Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look Subject: Re: Better terminal emulators than shelltool and cmdtool Message-ID: <9t1vo52@openlook.Unify.Com> Date: 26 Feb 91 15:25:42 GMT Lines: 39 From: uunet!auspex.auspex.com!guy (Guy Harris) (I *assume* AT&T provides source to that version of "xterm" with the appropriate part of their S5R4 source offering; if so, it will probably become part of Sun's X offering in SunOS/S5R4). Then you would probably assume that since the code for a widget-based olwm, file manager, workspace manager, and xterm have been included with the Xt+ source on which OLIT is based ever since version 1 (or even before for all I know), they would be part of Sun's offering now as alternatives for the XView-based ones, allowing support for those Open Look features on which XView and OLIT don't yet interoperate. And you would further assume that folks that want to use OLIT to do development including such features as drag-and-drop, which don't yet interoperate between XView and OLIT (nee' Xt+), wouldn't have to wait for months and months MORE to begin, since Sun would be committed to OLIT development as they are to XView. And you might assume that Sun would have modified XtAppMainLoop() to support RPC dispatching, in much the same way they have this support in the XView notifier. And you might even assume that Sun would support or resell Open Look Express (a.k.a. UIMX), a truly wonderful development tool but widget based, not XView based, or at least support OLIT from Guide, which is extremely limited compared to UIMX but at least would let you ask your marketing people if this sort of look is what they had in mind. And you might be wrong. (Note: In rereading this, I feel I should state that any warmth of feeling should be seen as directed not at the innocent Mr Harris, but in another direction entirely...) ----- End Included Message -----