Path: utzoo!utstat!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!umich!dgsi!brian From: brian@cimage.com (Brian Kelley) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Cnews expire problems Message-ID: <1991Feb20.161636.9861@cimage.com> Date: 20 Feb 91 16:16:36 GMT Organization: Cimage Corp, Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 134 I've been running Cnews for about 8 months now with no real problems. Recently, I've been looking a little more closely at news disk usage. I started looking at the dates on articles. Taking a totally arbitrary group, rec.gardens, I find the following article: -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1502 Jan 4 20:22 1190 looking at the header: Path: dgsi!umich!samsung!usc!wuarchive!mit-eddie!apollo!betsyp From: betsyp@apollo.HP.COM (Betsy Perry) Newsgroups: rec.gardens Subject: Re: Wayside Garden's English Roses Message-ID: <4f015001.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 4 Jan 91 14:58:00 GMT References: <138882@pyramid.pyramid.com> Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Reply-To: betsyp@apollo.HP.COM (Betsy Perry) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division; Chelmsford, MA Lines: 23 I ask myself, why is this article still here? doing an ls -l on the directory, I get the following: -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1502 Jan 4 20:22 1190 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1708 Jan 10 20:26 1220 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 590 Jan 10 20:27 1221 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 759 Jan 10 20:57 1222 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1380 Jan 10 21:10 1223 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 3340 Jan 11 03:24 1224 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1108 Jan 11 08:17 1225 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1156 Jan 11 08:18 1226 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 915 Jan 11 20:32 1227 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 804 Jan 11 20:33 1228 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 3363 Jan 11 20:39 1229 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2677 Jan 11 20:40 1230 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1611 Jan 11 20:47 1231 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2294 Jan 11 20:48 1232 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1484 Jan 11 20:55 1233 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 492 Jan 12 00:15 1234 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1456 Jan 12 20:19 1235 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1351 Jan 12 20:21 1236 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2203 Jan 12 20:21 1237 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 3742 Jan 12 20:27 1238 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1610 Jan 12 23:16 1239 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1491 Jan 13 00:17 1240 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2049 Jan 13 23:15 1241 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2023 Jan 14 20:19 1242 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1769 Jan 14 20:19 1243 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 757 Jan 14 20:25 1244 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1062 Jan 14 20:30 1245 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 968 Jan 14 20:37 1246 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 795 Jan 15 02:32 1247 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1631 Jan 15 20:18 1248 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 3600 Jan 15 20:21 1249 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1713 Jan 15 20:30 1250 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2757 Jan 15 20:30 1251 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 5047 Jan 15 20:32 1252 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 883 Jan 16 00:18 1253 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 968 Jan 16 00:18 1254 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 508 Jan 16 04:15 1255 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 967 Jan 16 04:15 1256 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1374 Jan 16 04:18 1257 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1567 Jan 16 05:15 1258 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 613 Jan 16 20:18 1259 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 695 Jan 16 20:18 1260 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 2116 Jan 16 20:24 1261 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1359 Jan 16 20:25 1262 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1037 Jan 16 20:29 1263 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1149 Jan 16 20:36 1264 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1875 Jan 16 20:36 1265 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1193 Jan 16 20:45 1266 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 985 Jan 16 20:45 1267 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 3759 Jan 17 02:16 1268 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1844 Jan 17 04:18 1269 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1884 Feb 9 03:16 1425 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1090 Feb 9 06:17 1426 -rw-rw-r-- 1 news 1824 Feb 10 20:18 1427 [the articles continue but are irrelevant] My explist file is: # expire fields: field1-field2-field3 # # retention period field1: days before articles are candidates for expiration # dflt expiry date field2: default expiration date # purge date field3: unconditional expiration # hold onto history lines 14 days, nobody gets >90 days /expired/ x 7 - #/bounds/ x 0-1-90 - # local groups - keep forever dsi,cimage,ctps x 9000-9000-9000 - comp x 5-7-10 - # big non-tech groups held long enough for a long weekend #sci,rec,talk,soc,misc,alt x 3-4-5 - # real noise gets thrown away fast junk,tor.news.stats,biz x 2-2-2 - # throw away some technical stuff not worth archiving comp.os.vms,comp.mail.maps x 1-1-1 - # default: 7 days and no archive all x 7 - --------------------- My question is, why are those old articles hanging around? I did have some problems (I believe back in Jan) running low on space. doexpire couldn't find space for it's work files. I don't believe that expire failing back then should effect last night's expire (which ran fine and should have removed those articles). Any thoughts? Thanks for any help, Brian --- brian@cimage.com