Xref: utzoo sci.med:23196 sci.bio:4459 sci.research:1527 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ethan From: ethan@ut-emx.uucp (Ethan Tecumseh Vishniac) Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.bio,sci.research Subject: Re: Who is smarter? Summary: Of course..... Message-ID: <44523@ut-emx.uucp> Date: 21 Feb 91 14:31:49 GMT References: <1991Feb20.203306.1463@sbcs.sunysb.edu> Followup-To: sci.bio Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas Lines: 52 In article <1991Feb20.203306.1463@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, srwilson@csws13.ic.sunysb.edu (Steve Wilson) writes: > Recently on the newsgroup, soc.culture.japan, there has been a buzzing > about an aparent study that was conducted to find out which race is > physically smarter due to the structure of the nervous system, etc... > The study aparently said that Oriental and Jewish people were smater, > followed by Caucasians... Is there any basis to this at all... Has > such a study truly been conducted, and what were the results?... I just want to let you know that these results are well known to be true by all of us who are Jewish or Oriental. :-) There have been a number of studies over the years designed to find out the answer to such things. The results have shown an amazing tendency to confirm the suspicions of the scientists involved. For a (somewhat vicious) summary read "The Mismeasure of Man" by S.J. Gould. More recent studies have stopped finding that northern Europeans are smarter and have tended to find that Jews and Orientals are smarter. I don't know how you would judge whether superior intellectual achievement by an ethnic group was genetic or cultural. (I note that these groups in America place a larger emphasis on intellectual achievement that the population as a whole.) And now for something completely different..... A friend of mine once told me that as an undergraduate and graduate student in NYC (some 30 years ago) she couldn't help but notice that the vast majority of the top students in her classes were Jews. Of course being a good liberal she knew that this was the result of cultural influences. Still, there was always a warm feeling in her heart that while all ethnic groups might be equal, some were evidently more equal than others. Then she started teaching at Rutgers. She told me that she felt she had made an amazing discovery. "This is where all the stupid Jews go to college!". (My belated apologies to alumni of Rutgers.) None of which says much about whether or not intelligence is largely determined by genes. The real problem is not whether or not some ethnic groups have more smarts (an unlikely, but just barely conceivable proposition) but how to resist the idea that we should make social policy based on what are evidently small (at most) statistical differences. -- I'm not afraid of dying Ethan Vishniac, Dept of Astronomy, Univ. of Texas I just don't want to be {charm,ut-sally,emx,noao}!utastro!ethan there when it happens. (arpanet) ethan@astro.AS.UTEXAS.EDU - Woody Allen (bitnet) ethan%astro.as.utexas.edu@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com