Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!bellcore!epic!karn From: karn@epic.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Radar detector detectors Message-ID: <1991Feb20.135310@epic.bellcore.com> Date: 20 Feb 91 18:53:10 GMT References: <3078@mindlink.UUCP> <11690@crdgw1.crd.ge.com> <6277@tekred.CNA.TEK.COM> Sender: usenet@bellcore.bellcore.com (Poster of News) Reply-To: karn@thumper.bellcore.com Organization: Packet Communications Research Group (Bellcore) Lines: 27 It seems to me that there are some simple counter-counter-measures for the radar detector detector problem. Radar detector detectors work by sensing the stray radiation from the first local oscillator in the radar detector. The stray radiation leaks through the first mixer and comes out the antenna. 1. Use an RF amplifier. Amplifiers tend to be one-way devices; not only would a good one suppress LO energy, but it would improve receiver sensitivity. 2. Use a balanced mixer. A balanced mixer, by design, suppresses LO energy from going out the input port. Cheap unbalanced mixers simply combine the RF and LO signals and feed them to a nonlinear amplifier, and there's nothing to keep the LO energy from going right out the antenna. 3. Spread the LO before feeding it to the first mixer. Then despread the IF signal. Any stray LO radiation will also be spread, thus making it much more difficult (if not impossible) to detect. Spreading should be easy to do - use a common PN sequence generator for both the spreading and despreading operations. This will also require two additional balanced mixers, one each for spreading and despreading. Phil Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com