Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!batcomputer!munnari.oz.au!bruce!monu0.cc.monash.edu.au!monu6!typ125m From: typ125m@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (John Wilkins) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: computer life? Keywords: Survival, instincts Message-ID: <1991Feb28.215632.19322@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> Date: 28 Feb 91 21:56:32 GMT References: <5375@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> <1991Feb26.213835.27074@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <1991Feb27.134800.18153@news.larc.nasa.gov> <1991Feb27.150208.27855@mp.cs.niu.edu> Organization: Caulfield Campus, Monash University, Melb., Australia. Lines: 25 rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes: >In article <1991Feb27.134800.18153@news.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey) writes: >> Granted, this is a good point. But manmade systems (like computers) >>are not evolved, but designed. > But the design has evolved (from the results of experience with prior designs). Yes, but the "ecology" in which computers "evolve", the selection pressures, are those of the teleonomic interests of humans. While one can say that there is an evolutionary process going on in the refinement of computer design, it is not the blind variation and selective retention of organic or other natural systems evolution, and for that reason it is dependent upon another evolutionary process to continue: social evolution. Computer "life" is therefore supervenient upon three other Lebensformen - the biological evolutionary process, the social evolutionary process and the social or cultural evolutionary process. Computers only have life in the same way any other adaptive tool does: as expressions of human goals. -- John Wilkins, Manager, Publishing & Advertising, Monash University Melbourne, Australia - Internet: john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au Disclaimer: IF Standard(disclaimer) THEN Applies(disclaimer) ELSIF Nonstandard(disclaimer) THEN PROBABLY (Applies(disclaimer)) ENDIF