Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!caen!uwm.edu!linac!midway!msuinfo!buster.cps.msu.edu!dailey From: dailey@buster.cps.msu.edu (Chris Dailey) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: AI - the real problem Message-ID: <1991Mar1.145213.1423@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Date: 1 Mar 91 14:52:13 GMT References: <1991Feb28.193218.21879@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> <1991Feb28.204538.21350@mp.cs.niu.edu> <1991Mar1.000125.20427@news.larc.nasa.gov> Sender: news@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu Reply-To: dailey@buster.cps.msu.edu (Chris Dailey) Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University Lines: 48 Originator: dailey@buster.cps.msu.edu I (dailey@buster.cps.msu.edu) wrote: >How about this: Human intelligence is the ability to recognize >patterns in the environment [in order] to make generalizations and >predictions about future events. To which Neil Rickert (rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu) replied: > Sound OK, providing that you will agree that Pavlov's dog exhibited >human intelligence. To which Scott Dorsey (kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov) replied: >Actually, I like this definition. By this definition, Pavlov's dog does >exhibit quite a degree of intelligence, far more than, say, a worm. But >much less than Dr. Minsky, because it was not able to make as sophisticated >generalizations or as detailed predictions. A rock or a Turing machine by >this definition would have no intelligence. As to whether a Turing machine >may be used to simulate a system which is intelligent is a question that >can't yet be answered. >--scott Maybe I shouldn't have said, "Human intelligence...". I think it is a mistake to be searching for intelligence inherently based on our own form (or for reasonable computer emulation therof). I think I should have said, "Higher intelligence". That leaves us with: Higher intelligence is the ability to recognize patterns in the environment [in order] to make generalizations and predictions about future events. So if we desire to improve this definition, let us consider a plant that always points towards the sun to get the maximum amount of light. Can we [and do we want to] say that the plant is displaying intelligence? There is a form of pattern recognition there, right? But is it making predictions or just responding to its environment? And if it is just responding to its environment, should that be a part of the definition of higher intelligence? Or maybe it is part of a definition of lower intelligence, which should possibly be included in a definition of higher intelligence? This definition requires interaction with the environment. Should that be? Or is this not really a requirement for higher intelligence but a necessity to be able to determine whether there is higher intelligence? Sorry for posing so many questions at once. -- Chris Dailey dailey@(frith.egr|cps).msu.edu __ __ ___ | "A line in the sand." -- The Detroit News __/ \/ \/ __:>- | \__/\__/\__/ | "Allein in der sand." -- me