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From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: CODEX  V.32bis  Modems:  Experiences?
Keywords: codex  v32bis  v.32bis
Message-ID: <1952@public.BTR.COM>
Date: 28 Feb 91 13:56:41 GMT
References: <146486@pyramid.pyramid.com>
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA, Contact: cs@btr.com 415-966-1429
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In article <146486@pyramid.pyramid.com> lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>[...]

Sigh.  Seems every newsgroup has its share of opinionated chest-beaters who,
in my opinion:

	- continuously demonstrate their lack of reading comprehension,
	- veil their apparent vested interests, 
	- provide NO useful information to others,
	- disinform via allegations,
	- malign that which is not their personal favorite, and
	- sidestep technical matters.

As I previously stated, "I have heard CODEX is a reputable company, so I have
no reason to disbelieve their claims of V.32 compliance.  Same for Telebit and
for Digicom."

Yet Lon rags on about CODEX being fully V.32 compliant and then insinuates
Telebit and Digicom are only partially compliant.

Such an assertion is akin to describing a mother-to-be in her third trimester
as being "a little bit pregnant" or a corpse as being "a little bit dead."  :-)

The situation with V.32 is NOT like the decade-ago horrors of 1200 baud
operation.  Either the modems ARE compliant or they ARE NOT compliant.

So, Lon, which is it?

And then he opines CODEX is the "best" without providing a comparative list,
failing again to respond to the original poster's request for any INFORMATION
about CODEX, good or bad.

From the anecdotes I presented regarding the "troublesome site" which, by the
way, if you haven't figured it out yet, is H-P Labs in Palo Alto (5 or 6 miles
from both Lon's and my sites), there must be "something" about the latest model
CODEX 2264 with MNP 5 which either:

	- prevents it operating well with other V.32 compliant modems,
	- still exhibits multi-mode handshaking problems, or
	- is so difficult to setup that not even H-P's experts can do it.

So, Lon, which is it?

I have no vested or pecuniary interest in any of the companies whose modem
products I own and/or use (ARK, Digicom, MultiTech, Telebit, and Ven-Tel).

My personal experience with CODEX products is bad.

My interest in helping the "troublesome site" is not selfish, so again my plea:

	If ANYONE has managed to call *INTO* a Telebit T2500 or Digicom 9624LE
	*FROM* a CODEX 2264 at 9600 or 19200, I would be greatly appreciative
	knowing HOW you did it so I can relay the info to a "troublesome" site.

So, Lon, can you help and not pontificate?  Since we're local to each other,
I can setup a dialup to my system for you to aid the resolution of the problem,
and we can post the findings to this newsgroup.

It's too bad you didn't come to the UNIX Users' Group meeting this evening,
just 4 miles from Pyramid, at which we could have possibly resolved the matter
then and there, and you could also have seen the Telebit NetBlazer operate.

Are there any CODEX employees reading this newsgroup who can also help?

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]