Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zazen!uwvax!galtee.cs.wisc.edu!rose From: rose@galtee.cs.wisc.edu (Scott M. Rose) Newsgroups: comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Coherent Digest Vol. 91.1, No. 13 Keywords: coherent Message-ID: <1991Mar1.163052.16759@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: 1 Mar 91 16:30:52 GMT References: <1991Feb27.212320.13375@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <4054@ryn.mro4.dec.com> Sender: news@spool.cs.wisc.edu (The News) Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 319 In article <4054@ryn.mro4.dec.com> ottovk@ultx03.uto.dec.com (Otto van Kranenburg) writes: >Where is Coherent Digest Vol 91.1, No 12 ????? To which the moderator replies, >Ah... did I forget to send that out? Oops, and apologies. Here it is. Coherent Digest Vol. 91.1, No. 12 Fri Feb 22 10:18:39 CST 1991 Today's Topics: re: Coherent on a Notebook Machine Coherent on a Notebook Machine (Zeos 386 SX Notebook) Coherent Printer Drivers Dropping DTR bouncing mail good news/bad news re: Coherent on a Notebook Machine (Zeos 386 SX Notebook) IDE hard drives IDE hard drives Administrivia: The Coherent Digest is a forum for discussion of the MWC Coherent 3.x operating system. Send submissions to "coherent@cs.wisc.edu" and administrivia to "coherent-reqeust@cs.wisc.edu". Previous issues are archived for anonymous FTP access on piggy.ucsb.edu in the directory "pub/coherent/mail-list". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Feb 91 14:53:52 From: mwc!norm@uunet.UU.NET (Norman Bartek) To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET Cc: suppt@uunet.UU.NET Subject: re: Coherent on a Notebook Machine > From: uunet!bubba.ma30.bull.com!sje (Steven J. Edwards) > Message-Id: <9102181558.AA06010@bubba.ma30.bull.com> > To: coherent%cs.wisc.edu > Subject: Coherent on a Notebook Machine > > Greetings. I have just received Coherent and I am planning to port > it to a notebook machine. It is a 16 MHz 386 SX with 5 Meg RAM along with a > 20 Meg HD, 1.44 Meg 9 cm FD and claims a battery life of at least two hours > per recharge cycle. I was wondering if any of you folks have had experience > with Coherent on this kind of platform. Yes, we are running COHERENT in house on the new ZEOS 386SX notebook. The model we have has 3MB of RAM and a 20MB hard disk. The unit is quite fast running COHERENT and seems to run for several hours between chanrges (a spare battery pack comes in handy for long trips). Quite a nice machine when you have to travel and want more than just DOS. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 91 09:16:20 EST From: sje@bubba.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) To: coherent%cs.wisc.edu@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Coherent on a Notebook Machine (Zeos 386 SX Notebook) > Yes, we are running COHERENT in house on the new ZEOS 386SX notebook. The > model we have has 3MB of RAM and a 20MB hard disk. The unit is quite fast > running COHERENT and seems to run for several hours between chanrges (a spare > battery pack comes in handy for long trips). Quite a nice machine when you > have to travel and want more than just DOS. I am getting the Zeos machine also, but with 5 Meg RAM and a 387 SX. Have you had any problems installing Coherent on this particular machine? Is there anything unusual I should watch out for with the ROM setup menu or disk partitioning? I intend to set up the disk with an 18 Meg Coherent partition and a 2 Meg MS-DOS partition. I ordered MS-DOS 4.01 as part of the Zeos package, but I am concerned with the possibility (mentioned in the Coherent 3.1.0 Release Notes) of MS-DOS interfering with the Coherent boot. (I have a non-Zeos copy of MS-DOS 3.3 as a fallback.) Does it matter which software I use for partitioning (Coherent or MS-DOS)? I also ordered the internal 2400 baud MNP 5 modem. Have you folks had any experience with this with respect to uucp operations? I'm really looking forward to this setup and intend to upgrade to a much larger HD when they become readily available. By that time (hopefully before that time), MWC will have Coherent/386 32 bit ready. == Steven J. Edwards Bull HN Information Systems Inc. == == (508) 294-3484 300 Concord Road MS 820A == == sje@bubba.ma30.bull.com Billerica, MA 01821 USA == "That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 91 15:43:51 EST From: sje@bubba.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) To: coherent%cs.wisc.edu@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Coherent Printer Drivers I currently have an Apple Imagewriter II printer hooked up to my Macintosh and have found the printer to be well designed and fairly reliable. I would like to connect the serial interface (RS-422 @ 9600 baud) of the Imagewriter to my Coherent machine (16 MHz 386 SX with a 9 pin IBM style serial port). The idea is to share the single printer physically between the two machines by using a switchbox. My question is: Has anyone already written a Coherent printer driver for the Imagewriter II? I am quite familiar with the software aspects of the Imagewriter and would like to have a printer driver that could handle the various special features (sheet feeding, paper motion fine control, bitmap operations, and color). I would be interested in hearing about how other Coherent users have handled printing tasks. == Steven J. Edwards Bull HN Information Systems Inc. == == (508) 294-3484 300 Concord Road MS 820A == == sje@bubba.ma30.bull.com Billerica, MA 01821 USA == "That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------ Date: 19 Feb 91 23:33:16 From: Anders Fongen To: cohnf@uunic.uu.no Subject: Dropping DTR I am unable to use the included Kermit program for data transfer due to the following fact: Each time I press "^s" the DTR signal is dropped, and the modem hangs up. Earlier I was able to hold the line with "^s" and reconnect with "kermit r .." to receive data. "^c" disconnects the line by dropping DTR too. I can't say for sure, but the last time this worked was before I upgraded to 3.1? Has this something to do with it? I have tried several possibilities, like /etc/disable or /etc/enable, local and remote control on the port, "don't hangup on last close etc." No change. Can this be solved, or will I have to look for xcomm to transfer data? Best regards, - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Anders Fongen BIX : afongen Vallerveien 57E INET: anders@fongen.uu.no N-1344 HASLUM USENET: ...uunet!fongen.uu.no!anders NORWAY tlf: +47-2-530505 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 20 Feb 91 03:55:37 From: samy%phenix.UUCP@Larry.McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Samy Touati) To: mcgill-!coherent Subject: bouncing mail Warning: This letter appears to contain mangled address(es): * To: header Original: To: mcgill-!coherent@cs.wisc.edu mcgill-vision!MAILER-DAEMON MAILER-DAEMON@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu Is there any way that a mail that cannot be delivered to a person on a Coherent system be bounced, so the original user be aware of that fact? Thanks Samy Touati samy%phenix.uucp@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue Feb 19 21:33:44 1991 From: Bill Henning To: coherent Subject: good news/bad news Classic good news/bad news situation: The bad news: Apparently the uuencoded files I 'put' on piggy are still corrupt. I suspect the problem may actually be with unzip reading the zip which I created under DOS. I will contact Jim Lick (jim@piggy.ucsb.edu) and ascertain the best method for me to get the files onto piggy. Sorry for the delay. The good news: I have successfully ported trek73 to Coherent (a very easy port). I will also try to put that onto piggy. The chess program is also now running (my scanw replacement #define had a typo in it) however it has some curses/termcap problems. Old news: Within the next few days I'll try to get the new libcurses.a off mwcbbs and try to resolve the problems - month, chess, sc are all having problems with curses / termcap. - -- +-----------+----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Amiga// | UUCP: bhenning@bhami.wimsey.bc.ca /* preferred address */ | | 1000// | | | \\ // | -or- uunet!van-bc!bhami!bhenning \___ last resort | | \X/bhami | -or- uunet!wimsey.bc.ca!bhami!bhenning / may not work! | +-----------+----------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 21 Feb 91 12:36:17 From: mwc!norm@uunet.UU.NET (Norman Bartek) To: cohmail@uunet.UU.NET Cc: suppt@uunet.UU.NET Subject: re: Coherent on a Notebook Machine (Zeos 386 SX Notebook) > I am getting the Zeos machine also, but with 5 Meg RAM and a > 387 SX. Have you had any problems installing Coherent on this > particular machine? Is there anything unusual I should watch out for > with the ROM setup menu or disk partitioning? No, COHERENT installed without a hitch and has been running fine now for a few weeks. We also installed the MS-DOS that Zeos shipped. Cross your fingers, but so far no unexpected interactions ;-) We too are looking forward to putting a larger drive on the machine. The modem was on back order and just arrived the other day, so I can't make any claims about it yet. You'll love the machine. It's wonderful being able to do demos on a 386 machine that weighs less than 7 pounds and doesn't need a power cord... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 91 00:44:19 EST From: Tim Buck To: coherent Subject: IDE hard drives Does anyone besides me have Coherent on a machine with an IDE hard drive? If so, are you having problems with the drive controller? What type of BIOS do you have? What model drive? [ I would make the following comments: I am running Coherent on a Maxtor 200 MB IDE drive without any particular problems. There *is* no controller, just a "paddleboard" that has buffers and address-decoding logic-- that's the whole concept of IDE, after all. I have an AMI BIOS, which I sought out specifically for its "drive type 47"-- this allows me to specify the parameters of my drive *to* the CMOS, rather than being constrained by the parameter table in ROM-- and thus had to employ the "type 47 fix" alluded to in a recent posting by MWC. I also run DOS 4.01 on my other partition, this to permit me to address my DOS partition as one big drive. -Editor] I understand MWC is having great success running Coherent on a Zeos laptop. Don't most laptops have IDE drives? Finally, someone was asking a few days ago about having a MS-DOS 4.01 partition. I've been running Coherent and MS-DOS 4.01 with no booting problems on a Packard Bell 286 (Phoenix BIOS) [however I am having problems with the IDE controller]. ___________________________________________________________________ | Timothy Buck | | | timbuck@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (preferred) | Virginia Tech | | jbuck@vtssi.vt.edu | Blacksburg,VA | | OR timbuck@albert.ai.mit.edu | | `--------------------------------------------------+---------------' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 91 08:49:29 EST From: sje@bubba.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) To: TIMBUCK@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU Cc: coherent Subject: IDE hard drives > Does anyone besides me have Coherent on a machine with an IDE hard drive? > If so, are you having problems with the drive controller? What type of > BIOS do you have? What model drive? > > I understand MWC is having great success running Coherent on a Zeos > laptop. Don't most laptops have IDE drives? > > Finally, someone was asking a few days ago about having a MS-DOS 4.01 > partition. I've been running Coherent and MS-DOS 4.01 with no booting > problems on a Packard Bell 286 (Phoenix BIOS) [however I am having > problems with the IDE controller]. I am fairly sure that the Zeos 386 SX laptop has an IDE hard disk. It is reported to be a Conner CD2420 and is a fairly standardized design. It is used in most of the higher end notebook machines. It may be the case that MS-DOS 4.01 boot mangling problems will only occur with partition sizes above 32 Meg. == Steven J. Edwards Bull HN Information Systems Inc. == == (508) 294-3484 300 Concord Road MS 820A == == sje@bubba.ma30.bull.com Billerica, MA 01821 USA == "That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------ End of Coherent Digest Vol. 91.1, No. 12 **************************************** -- Scott Rose rose@cs.wisc.edu (608) 238-3801