Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!alfalfa.com!nazgul From: nazgul@alfalfa.com (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Virtual Key Bugs? Message-ID: <910227024448.2879@alphalpha> Date: 27 Feb 91 07:44:48 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 60 I have two oddities with Virtual Key Bindings in Motif 1.1. One definitely looks like a Motif bug, the other one I don't understand. o Cut works in read-only text widgets. It ought presumbably do a Copy, but actually it just nukes the whole thing, even though it's "readonly". o The Apollo keyboard has Cut/Copy/Paste keys (as well as a lot of other handy ones). Cut, as it happens, is Shift Copy. I'm not sure if that's relevant or not. Anyway. If I define the Cut and Copy keys appropriately, both keys do a Cut. If I define Cut to be ShiftCopy, then it doesn't do anything at all. Is this an Apollo specific problem, or a more generic confusion? (And in either case, what can I do about it.) While I'm at it. I can't seem to get Help to work on the Help key, and I can't find a keyname for the Enter key anywhere. For those who are curious and don't have an Apollo. Here's the kind of keyboard that 10 years of a graphical windowing system produces: Left hand side (some names appear on two lines, some are two functions, one the shift of the other - which is which should be fairly obvious): --- Ins Line Char [*Not* the same as Delete] Mark Del Del Cut Undo Move Copy Paste Grow |<- Shell ->| [Begin of line, end of line] Cmd <- (boxed) ^ -> (boxed) [Scroll left, scroll right] <- Next -> Window ^ (boxed) v v (boxed) [Scroll up, scroll down] --- 10 Function keys on the top. On the right, next to the shift key, a Pop key. Upper right row: --- Again Read Save Abort Help Edit Exit Hold --- You too can manipulate all of your windows and text without ever touching the mouse. Not to worry though. HP will soon be taking them all away I'm sure. Alfalfa Software, Inc. | Poste: The EMail for Unix nazgul@alfalfa.com | Send Anything... Anywhere 617/646-7703 (voice/fax) | info@alfalfa.com I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.