Newsgroups: comp.text.tex Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watdragon!violet!ftkcheng From: ftkcheng@violet.uwaterloo.ca (Felix Cheng) Subject: Re: Comparing word processors with TeX Message-ID: <1991Feb28.192205.26512@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Sender: daemon@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Owner of Many System Processes) Organization: University of Waterloo References: <18200@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com> <614@taumet.com> <1991Feb24.014010.28426@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 1991 19:22:05 GMT Lines: 96 In article <1991Feb24.014010.28426@watmath.waterloo.edu>, nmouawad@watmath.waterloo.edu (Naji Mouawad) writes: > In article <614@taumet.com> mike@taumet.UUCP (Michael S. Ball) writes: > >In article <18200@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com> jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee ) writes: > >> > >>Yes, I know it's not fair to word processors (like Word, WordPerfect, > >>Macwrite, etc) to attempt to compare them to TeX, but when faced with > >>the question: > >> > >> Why should I have to tolerate the fickleness of TeX when > >> I can use Word or WordPerfect? > > > >The best reasons to use Tex are that it > > > >a) simplifies some part of the job which you are doing > > > >b) produces higher quality output, and you care about it. > > > >We have found the first to be true, particularly for longer documents > >with significant structure. The arguments for a markup language for long > >documents are well known, and I won't repeat them. > > > >Using our Laserjet II printer, the output produced by Tex is significantly > >higher in quality than that produced by WordPerfect with Bitstream fonts. > >I don't know why that is, but it's quite noticable. For anything with > >equations WordPerfect isn't even close. My friends who do desktop publishing > >on Mac's and PC's regularly Oh and Ah over our Tex output, even though we > >paid very little attention to anything but writing the document (an advantage > >of a markup language.) > > > >On the other hand, we use WordPefect for letters, short reports, and similar > >documents which aren't worth the trouble of using Tex. > > > >A completely separate reason applies only if you consider documents to have > >a high archival value in an electronic form. When was the last time you > >tried to recover some old wordstar files? What? you don't still have > >wordstar around? How about MacWrite 10 years from now? My TeX files > >are still going to be there in ordinary ASCII, and I can edit out the > >markup if I need to. Of course, this is only a concern for major pieces > >of documentation. > > > >-- > >Michael S. Ball mike@taumet.com > >TauMetric Corporation (619)697-7607 > > While I do agree with Micheal concering the points that he raised > in his posting, I thought I might share a little exprerience > I had with WordPerfect and Latex: > > I had to write a long text (about 90 pages in 11 pt) with no > subdivisions whatsoever. It was a continuous stream of text divided > into paragraphs separated by blank lines. > > In case you do wonder why would anyone do something so stupid, this > piece of text is a novel. > > Furthermore, this is a French piece. I have a French version of WP > with a French keyboard (much easier to type in the French characters > than in Latex, but again Latex was not designed with French > characters in mind.) and after finishing those 90 pages, I decided > to use "wp2latex" to get a latex version of the file, since I prefer > Tex fonts over Wp fonts. > > Once this tedious operation perfomed, I tried to Latex the file: > > "Sorry out of main memory ..." > > I thought this was because of DOS's memory limitations (I am using > emTex BTW, excellent!). I transfered my files over my MIPS UNIX account > and ran Latex on the file: > > "Sorry out of main memory ..." > > Either I am doing something wrong or Latex (maybe it is Tex) cannot > swallow big unformatted chunks of text... unless you change > the memory requierement, meaning that eventually you will get a bigger > file that will give you back the dreaded: > > "Sorry out of main memory ..." > > As a Happy Ending, I went back to my DOS machine and ran blatex, > which was able to process the file with no glitch. (Hurray for emtex !) > > --Naji. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Naji Mouawad | nmouawad@watmath.waterloo.edu | > | University |---------------------------------------------------| > | Of Waterloo | "The Stranger in us is our most familiar Self" | Try using biglatex or bigtex. These are LaTeX and TeX versions for BIG files. --Felix Cheng