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From: ir@crosfield.co.uk (ian reid)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Why does a process have to have a tty open for stty to work (SysV)
Keywords: tty stty open SysV
Message-ID: <8845@suns302.crosfield.co.uk>
Date: 27 Feb 91 11:11:26 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Ltd., Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom
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On all the System V machines I have worked on, I'm not sure about BSD flavours,
if you wish to change the settings of a tty line using stty that tty line had
to be opened by a process for the changes to take effect.

I have come across this most recently when trying to setup COM3 on a PC running
Interactive UNIX 2.2, to send debugging output to a VT100 terminal.

No gettys or any other process are running on COM3. COM3 is /dev/tty01

So the following sequence occurs.

prompt> stty < /dev/tty01
speed 300 baud; <rest of report deleted>
prompt> stty 9600 < /dev/tty01
prompt> stty < /dev/tty01
speed 300 baud; <rest of report deleted>
prompt> sleep 1000 > /dev/tty01&
prompt> stty 9600 < /dev/tty01
prompt> stty < /dev/tty01
speed 9600 baud; <rest of report deleted>

Of course another interesting thing is stty works on the standard input for
SysV systems, but on the standard output for BSD systems.

So why does another process have to have the tty device open for the changes to
work, and why the difference described in the previous paragraph between
different stty implementations.
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