Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!lethe!yunexus!ists!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!caen!ox.com!ox.com!emv From: emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: I have a file named "-" Message-ID: Date: 27 Feb 91 07:10:36 GMT References: <22834@hydra.gatech.EDU> <1991Feb26.170212.22920@convex.com> <6661@idunno.Princeton.EDU> <6668@idunno.Princeton.EDU> Sender: usenet@ox.com (Usenet News Administrator) Organization: OTA Limited Partnership, Ann Arbor MI. Lines: 31 In-Reply-To: subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU's message of 27 Feb 91 05:12:34 GMT In article <6668@idunno.Princeton.EDU> subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes: e | real wizards don't put in extra lines for inews. they x | know that 1) it's evil to put in too much quoted text and t | 2) inews is just a program which can be circumvented and r | 3) it's ugly and pointless to waste lines. a | 4) sets a bad example too. l | how do I remove a file "-" points out a flaw in the i | unix getopt scheme. that "-" is often overloaded to n | mean "standard output" or "standard input" is another e | source of confusion. exercise: describe other punctuation s | marks which the unix shells and c libraries abuse. f | it's clear that there's a use for a newsgroup approximating o | the role of "ask mr. wizard". what that group would be r | named, got me. i | radical idea: a group which would be culled from the n | best postings in the rest of comp.unix.*. e | ruthlessly moderated, indexed, and edited as necessary. w | funded by either some government grant (not likely), s | subscriber fees, or something. on the whole there's a lot of good stuff in comp.unix.*, but there's also a lot of just plain old stuff. -- Msen Edward Vielmetti /|--- moderator, comp.archives emv@msen.com