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From: david@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV (David E. Smyth)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: OL != Motif
Message-ID: <11622@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
Date: 28 Feb 91 17:04:35 GMT
References: <9102272142.AA02407@marvin.pbi.com>
Reply-To: david@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV (David E. Smyth)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
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First of all, I really don't care which way it goes.

rick@pbi.COM (Richard M. Goldstein) writes:
>
> ... OSF's plans to add the "Drag and Drop" and stay-up menu features
>"around the end of 1991" that Open Look has had from the outset.

"Drag and Drop" is currently being discussed by X Consortium
members.  Personally, I don't see how its going to be very
useful within the existing context of Open Look.  This is
an architectural issue, not simply a toolkit issue.  The
OpenLook scheme is not sufficient.

>This is all, of course, a reflection of the fact that the folks who
>designed Open Look had the good sense to START with the style-guide

Sorry, but this "specification first" approach is, IMHO, the reason
*BOTH* Motif and OpenLook have problems.  Neither UI is very good.
Paper documents are an absolutely terrible way of describing a user interface.

Does anybody who used any of the window environments on Xerox workstations
pre '85 feel that either environment is even *CLOSE* to what we had by
the middle of the last decade?  I sure as hell don't.

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