Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!dont-send-mail-to-path-lines From: rlk@think.COM (Robert L Krawitz) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: OL != Motif Message-ID: <9102281530.AA03852@underprize.think.com> Date: 28 Feb 91 15:30:42 GMT References: <9102272142.AA02407@marvin.pbi.com> Sender: rlk@think.com Organization: The Internet Lines: 31 \begin{flame} Gaah. What about those of us who run a simple twm configuration (I'd run uwm if I could), who don't particularly even care for title bars, who object strenuously to 3D appearance (it's not just because it's unnecessary, or slow, but I find it downright ugly), who just want a simple interface without all the bells and whistles? I will NOT run mwm just to run some application that won't cooperate with some other window manager. I do NOT want my screen cluttered with all sorts of useless gimmicks that satisfy someone's idea of prettiness (who probably doesn't even use the thing to begin with). I do not find an artificial three dimensional effect (shadowing) pleasant or natural to deal with. I do not have depth perception, and do not normally rely on depth cues of this nature even when dealing with material objects. I do not want my screen to mimic a three dimensional surface which it isn't and use a mouse to "push" buttons via remote control. A computer screen and mouse is very different from the control panel on a "conventional" piece of equipment, and trying to carry over all the paradigms without change just doesn't work. Better to take advantage of what the computer can do with the screen, keyboard, and mouse than to try to imitate a completely different system, have it fall down on its face, and be incompatible with everything else anyway. \end{flame} There, I've got that off my chest. ames >>>>>>>>> | Robert Krawitz 245 First St. bloom-beacon > |think!rlk (postmaster) Cambridge, MA 02142 harvard >>>>>> . Thinking Machines Corp. (617)234-2116