Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!caen!ox.com!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack From: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org (James Womack) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Sign Languages Message-ID: <17893@bunker.UUCP> Date: 28 Feb 91 16:03:54 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/14 - The Emerald Isle, Tucson AZ Lines: 35 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13742 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] If you read my post with care, I believe you will find the reasons I made my statement. On the average, a deaf person much like any non-native user of English does not master it quite as well as the average native user. This does not put down deaf ability-I am Deaf myself- it is a fact. It does imply thatit is an impossible achievement, but is true onthe average. M O R E deaf people would achieve higher English skills if educators allowed us to have a first language on which to build a 2nd language. A N D fewer deaf people would graduate with merely a 3rd or 4th grade reading level. If you would look at some of the very old films of deaf Gallaudetians and other deaf spokespeople addressing audiences, you would stunned at their eloquence and use of rather advanced word usage. They are people who were educated in what Gallaudet, Clerc and others called the "Natural Language of Signs of the Deaf." They had a 1st language on which the 2nd one-English was taught. They were also better writers than todays average deaf graduate. Heck! One of them , Veditz even refuted the great Alexander Graham Bell's research and argument against having deaf only schools and use of sign language and allowing deaf people to marry each other. He provide statistical and methodological proof of thefallacies of these arguments before the academy of Science and Congressmen and won! Never think I am claiming deaf people can't do something offhandily. I argue that the narrowminded English only approach is demonstrated failure andthere are valid reasons for why this is so. I stand by that contention. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack Internet: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org