Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!lll-winken!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!yale!bunker!hcap!hnews!109!147.0!Jay.Croft From: Jay.Croft@p0.f147.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jay Croft) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Multiple Uses Of Sign Message-ID: <17916@bunker.UUCP> Date: 28 Feb 91 16:12:15 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: Jay.Croft@p0.f147.n109.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/147.0 - The CyberChurch BBS, Washington DC Lines: 47 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13765 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] I stand by my statements. Look in the directory issue of THE AMERICAN ANNALS OF THE DEAF. It lists most of the programs for deaf children in the USA. The listings also show the number of deaf staff people. Work out the mathematics for yourself. Your response to my statement, "The education of deaf children is largely in the hands of people who have never been deaf one day in their lives and never will be," is completely irrelevant. Investigate for yourself the percentage of teachers and staff in school programs for deaf children, who are themselves deaf. I have no idea why you brought up the subject of people who become deaf later in life, in regard to education programs. "Mainstreaming" classes have so many things wrong with them, both conceptually and educationally, that Dr. Mary Malzkuhn, professor of government at Gallaudet University, has suggested that they are a violation of the 8th amendment of the US Constitution. The 8th Amendments prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment." Residential schools for deaf children (at least the better ones) work hard to instill pride and self-esteem in their students. The kids are definitely not made to feel inferior. They put on plays, they have varsity sports teams which play against hearie schools, they probably have more field trips than public schools do. The teachers in residential schools who themselves are deaf take particular responsibility for helping deaf kids not only cope, but succeed in the larger world. The four student leaders who successfully guided the protest against a hearie president of Gallaudet University are all from residential schools, and all the offspring of deaf parents. They don't feel inferior. Our educational system is definitely supposed to teach social skills. Residential schools only for children "in dire necessity?" Ho, ho, ho. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!109!147.0!Jay.Croft Internet: Jay.Croft@p0.f147.n109.z1.fidonet.org