Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!samsung!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack From: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org (James Womack) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: Multiple Uses Of Sign Message-ID: <17966@bunker.UUCP> Date: 1 Mar 91 04:23:53 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.UUCP Reply-To: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org Distribution: misc Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/14 - The Emerald Isle, Tucson AZ Lines: 61 Approved: wtm@bunker.UUCP Index Number: 13815 [This is from the Silent Talk Conference] What you tell Anne is true, Jay. The mainstreaming mentality is oddly enough bringing Alexander Graham Bell's dreaded "prevent the emergence of a Deaf Race" philosophy back from the dead. This oralist view of deaf genocide had mainstreaming as its core toprevent among other things, deaf people from marrying each other and eliminating Deaf teachers from deaf education programs. You ought to read the man's full history and his true depth of involvement with Deaf people. Oddly enough, he seemed fine with deaf people until he hooked up with his oralist deaf educator-hating wife Mabel Hubbard. Deaf people who know mainstreaming for what it is and as it is applied today, consider it a form of cultural genocide. Anne, I fear is only able to see her view of things. A forum involving deaf people from all walks of life and statistics showing the social, cultural, and personal impact of the majority of deaf people in these programs will show that mainstreaming is doing far more harm than good (yet if it were applied the way I showed how it is sometimes used here in Tucson, it could be fantastic!). Recently, a former student of mine whose parents pulled her from ASDB a few years ago was seen driving into the deaf school rapidly. She was followed by what appeared to be a hearing friend or counselor. This follower was in another car. Theyparked outside. the girl was distraught. We watched. The friend or whatever plead with her for a long time. We left them alone. It seems the girl was experiencing problems with earing peers, teachers etc etc and wanted to return to the deaf school. Nobody agreed with her wants of course. She was lonely, bitter, angry, upset etc etc. To quote jer when she came to visit later, "I didn't belong there. I would not recommend mainstream for deaf people. It's all lies." Tome this is an overstatement because there are situation in which it can work for some deaf students. Especially if the child's needs are the true core of placement and not some bonedheaded narrowminded philosophy from someone who doesn't know a darn thing about deaf people or deafness. In any case, this girl is just one more frustrated and angry "Deaf adult" who was forced to endure an educational system that does not work and does a lot of psychological damage. I asked why did she come back to visit. She said I justhad to talk with a deaf teacher, someone who understands me. I wish and Maureen could have come to help me learn when I couldn't understand my teachers in thepublic school. She speaks angrily abouther parents who insisted she go mainstreamed. She is angry at the public school and a lot ofits staff. Telling her that they al did what they believed was best for her and they did not fully understand what this meant to she herself as a person gets this response. "F--- them! I didn't ask for this!" She goes on and on. Such an angry young woman. Yet she is just one of many I have watched over the years warped by what I insist are well-meaning people who just don't recognize that a deaf child is first of all "deaf." And Engolish being phonetic is not meant for cramming through the eyes. And that the systems focusing on English and English only as an education medium is an over all 200 plus year old FAILURE. In a millionyears I don't knwo if many hearies and brainwashed deaf people willget this thru their heads. in the meantime, so many kids pay dearly for this absurd approach. -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!300!14!James.Womack Internet: James.Womack@f14.n300.z1.fidonet.org