Xref: utzoo talk.politics.misc:64888 trial.talk.politics.peace:75 alt.desert-storm:10640 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!shelby!agate!agate.berkeley.edu!matt From: matt@physics16.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,trial.talk.politics.peace,alt.conspiracy,alt.desert-storm Subject: Re: Reparations Message-ID: Date: 4 Mar 91 02:24:12 GMT References: <9103022221.28338@mydog.UUCP> <16913@accuvax.nwu.edu> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Reply-To: matt@physics.berkeley.edu Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group) Lines: 42 In-Reply-To: kaufman@delta.eecs.nwu.edu's message of 4 Mar 91 04:01:15 GMT In article <16913@accuvax.nwu.edu> kaufman@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes: Xref: agate talk.politics.misc:79912 trial.talk.politics.peace:77 alt.conspiracy:4675 alt.desert-storm:10844 Path: agate!ucbvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!delta.eecs.nwu.edu!kaufman From: kaufman@delta.eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,trial.talk.politics.peace,alt.conspiracy,alt.desert-storm Date: 4 Mar 91 04:01:15 GMT References: <9103022221.28338@mydog.UUCP> Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University Lines: 18 In article <9103022221.28338@mydog.UUCP> gcf@mydog.UUCP (Gordon Fitch) writes: >It seems to me that, long ago, I heard the story of another >nation that was defeated in war. It, too, was devastated and >blockaded; and it was made to pay considerable reparations. Gosh Gordon, your posts would carry at lot more weight is you were to give slightly more specific examples. Like, the name of the country, when this happened, etc. As it stands now, most of us have no idea what you are talking about. On the contrary, I think (and I hope) that most of us know exactly what Gordon is talking about. The country he is talking about is Germany, and the Treaty of Versailles, which ended World War I in 1918, forced it to pay a crushing burden of war reparations. Many people believe that the resentment inspired by this punitive treaty was a major factor precipitating the collapse of the Weimar republic, the rise of Hitler, and the beginning of World War II. (Gordon might have used other examples as well; France, for example, after the Franco-Prussian War. Or he might have used an example of the opposite behavior: the Allies refusal to demand reparations from Germany and Japan after World War II.) -- Matthew Austern Just keep yelling until you attract a (415) 644-2618 crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a austern@lbl.bitnet faction, an army! If you don't have any austern@physics.berkeley.edu solutions, become a part of the problem!