Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!sics.se!sics.se!torkel From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Consistency theorems Message-ID: <1991Mar3.100539.9325@sics.se> Date: 3 Mar 91 10:05:39 GMT References: <16462.9102272325@s4.sys.uea.ac.uk> <1991Feb28.172555.12897@sics.se> <2398@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> Sender: news@sics.se Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista Lines: 12 In-Reply-To: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk's message of 1 Mar 91 14:57:56 GMT In article <2398@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A.V. Le Blanc) writes: >It is not necessarily the case that all proofs of consistency of the >type you mention are trivial. There are lots of non-trivial consistency proofs. The character of the proof you describe is not clear from your description, in view of the "addition of a further axiom". However, it seems plain that it is not of the kind that I characterized as trivial: proofs by reflection, in which a truth predicate for T is defined in an extension S of T, and it is proved in S that every theorem of T is true.