Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!apple!ntg!dplatt From: dplatt@ntg.uucp (Dave Platt) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Another 9600 protocol! Message-ID: <13@goblin.ntg.uucp> Date: 5 Mar 91 19:13:58 GMT References: <1991Mar2.005717.14483@qiclab.scn.rain.com> <3826.27d2479a@hayes.uucp> Reply-To: dplatt@ntg.UUCP (Dave Platt) Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc., Palo Alto CA Lines: 43 Al Peterman writes: > The v.32 > standard originates from The International Telegraph and Telephone Consultative > Committee, CCITT. Unfortunately, the committee overlooked something > important...YOU...the PC user. It was biased toward main frame, not PC > communications, thus cost wasn't an issue. v.32 technology is intrinsically > too costly to achieve the required performance/cost goal. and Toby Nixon responds: >This is simply not true. We've seen dramatic reduction in the cost >of V.32 modems over the past year or two -- from almost $3,000, down >to street prices under $500. Many analysts believe that the price >will go even lower. There is nothing "intrinsically too costly" >about a V.32 modem that makes it more expensive; but it _has_ been >costly because of the available technology, until now. I suspect that Toby's analysis is more accurate, and that history will repeat itself to some extent. Back in the early '80s, I got fed up with my lowly 300-baud modem, and looked around for one which could handle 1200 bits/second using the Bell 212 modulation. The least expensive one I could find at the time was a Racal-Vadic modem board intended for OEM users... I bought one and wired up an RS-232 interface for it myself. The cost... $475 plus tax, title, and parts for the converter. It's a large board, uses lots of power, runs rather hot... and by today's standards it's completely obsolete. 1200-bps modems today are jellybeans; you get them in boxes of Crackerjack (well, not really, but they're almost that inexpensive). Today's low-power, highly-integrated 2400 bps modems are about 5% (!) the physical size of my old 1200-bps, and use correspondingly less power. I have no reason to doubt that similar Good Things will happen in V.32 modem technology. My old Racal-Vadic board-in-a-cardboard-carton still works fine... and in fact it's rather less noise-prone at 1200 bps than a number of more modern modems I've tested out. -- Dave Platt VOICE: (415) 813-8917 UUCP: ...apple!ntg!dplatt USNAIL: New Technologies Group Inc. 2468 Embarcardero Way, Palo Alto CA 94303