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From: don@brahms.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
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Subject: Re: Toaster & ST (was: re: LEXICOLOR, Atari TT/030,...
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Date: 5 Mar 91 03:12:12 GMT
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In article <17671@milton.u.washington.edu> ramsiri@blake.u.washington.edu (Enartloc Nhoj) writes:

	[Toaster to ST/TT stuff deleted]
>
>>
>>I find that hard to believe in. Why would Newtek want ST market? There are even
>>fewer STs on professional use than Amigas. I don't think that Toaster will ever
>>be reconstructed to any other machine but Amiga 3000 since they won't even
>>reconstruct it for IBM PC or compatibles. The reason is simple: Amiga is most
>>suitable for videowork of all major personal computers (well, NeXT may be as
>>good as Amiga). Toaster for ST/TT is reality only in  your imagination. And
>>will be.
>>
>
>Well, for one, the ATARI TT/030 is opening up new markets for ATARI.
>As you might know, Europe, and Germany in particular, is loaded with
>ATARIs, not AMIGAS.. perhaps the third party co that is doing the
>marriage between the Toaster and the TT is shooting for that market.
>In any event, NewTek is cooperating with the port.
>

	Unfortunately the Toaster does not support PAL (the European standard) video
signals, so it would be rather useless for companies there to spend a lot of
money on a machine which will be basically useless in their countries except
for its frame buffer capabilities, which can be had 'standalone' at a much lower
price.
	As far as the # of Ataris vs. Amigas in Europe, I've heard several figures
lately that would seem to argue in favor of the Amiga.  Namely, a british
computer magazine listing the top 10 computer companies (in units shipped)
which went something like this:
	1. Commodore
	2. IBM
	3. Compaq
	4. Atari
	........etc

	Also, Commodore's profits in the past two quarters have been extraordinarily
high (for Commodore), and according to the quarterly report they send to
stockholders, this is due in large part to something like a 50% increase in
Amiga sales.  As of last year around the time the 2 millionth Amiga shipped,
75% of those were in Europe.

>Why are Amiga owners threatened by the possiblity that
>the Toaster might be running on another platform?
>Does this make the Toaster running on the Amiga any less
>useful?  I don't get it?
>

	Probably because the Toaster represents a very key product on the road
to professional respectability for the Amiga, and Amiga users need to hold
on to anything that will be helpful in that area.  To have it ported to
another machine, whether it be ST, PC, Mac, or other, takes that edge away.


>If someone is wants go buy an AMiga, they will buy it.
>If someone wants to buy a TT and a Video Toaster, they'll
>buy it.
>

	Err, if they can find one, that is (the TT _or_ the TT Toaster ) :-) :-)


>
>Are mac people freaked out that Aldus ported Pagemaker to MS-dos?
>Should ST people be freaked out that PageStream was ported to the
>Amiga?  I honestly don't care?.. if anything, am pleased that
>AMiga owners have the option of using PageStream if they choose.
>
	Out of curiosity, is SoftLogik still providing PS upgrades?  I've been using
the Amiga v2.1 and am pretty impressed with it.  	

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