Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jarthur!ucivax!honig From: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: PERCEPTION (was: Turing test, psychographics, ..) Message-ID: <27D52886.15091@ics.uci.edu> Date: 6 Mar 91 17:36:06 GMT References: <4996@cui.unige.ch> Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 42 In article <4996@cui.unige.ch> pun@cui.unige.ch (PUN Thierry) writes: >As a particular exemple, one of the problem we are working on is how a >focus of attention is selected, ie. why and how one looks first at some >particular points in a scene. Clearly, such a topic is interesting for a >computer vision system. Our feeling is that it is also of interest for >image synthesis: which will be the part in a synthetized picture that will >be scrutinized first? At the recent SPIE conf in San Jose someone (sorry, don't have my program with me) reported a study where they tracked the eye motions of people watching canadian TV. Since you only see well in the fovea, if you could send high-quality info only where, say, 99% of all people watched, you could save megabandwidth. BUt you need to predict this (set of) location; either with humans (tedious) or machines (unknown how to do this). >More generally, it would be very interesting to start a discussion on >how perceptual studies can be relevant to imaging sciences. This concerns >computer graphics as well as computer vision. The Eurographics Working >Group on the Relations between image analysis and image synthesis intends >focusing on issues of perception and it is open to interested researchers. >If there is enough interest, a mailing list could be started for exchanging >information. Interested people should contact one of the two persons >mentionned below. The whole reason that JPEG allows *you* to choose the quantization (as will MPEG) is so that *you* can implement what *you* think the human observer can/needs to see. The point was made at this conference that there are two kinds of redundancy you can exploit: image redundancy and the insensitivity of the human visual system. The latter gets at the importance of psychophysics. Cheers. -- David A. Honig "The fundamental principle of science, the definition almost, is this: the sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment." -- R. P. Feynman