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From: grahj@gagme.chi.il.us (jim graham)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: I need ELM for my personal use
Message-ID: <1214@gagme.chi.il.us>
Date: 4 Mar 91 03:55:27 GMT
References: <2756@beguine.UUCP> <1991Feb28.174956.6309@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US>
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In article <1991Feb28.174956.6309@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US> rob@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US (Rob Bernardo) writes:
>alan@hercules.acpub.duke.edu wrote:

>>we are free to obtain copies of the program and run it out of our
>>individual accounts if we so desire.

>One thing to watch out for in a situation like this is that elm (at least
>on most systems) needs to run setgid to the group that owns the mail
>spool directory and you will need non-ordinary permissions to install
>it properly.

ok --- I've seen this comment come around several times, but I can't seem to
prove that it's anything but false.  someone please explain.....

I compiled Elm (similar situations) on several UNIX systems at work in
addition to my own.  On each of these, I don't have root authority, or
anything other than group staff....which is nothing.  In Elm's config script,
I simply told it that it would NOT be running setgid, and have yet to see
a problem.  The systems are a Sun 3/60 (or thereabouts) running the latest
SunOS, a Sparc running SunOS, a pc/rt running aix, and a ps/2 running aix.

Also, I don't think I ever made it setgid on my system, which is a VAXstation
3100 running Ultrix 4.1.  I've never noticed anything wrong under any of
these configs (except that the aix machines don't know where mail is really
supposed to be stored, and required hacking of the Elm src).  Have I just
been lucky in not being on any of the "most systems" mentioned?  or is there
some feature that I'm not seeing, and not trying to use?

please send comments via direct mail --- our newsfeed here died for a short
term, and I'm more trusting of mail getting through than news....  I'll 
post a summary if there's a lot of response (which I'm hoping there will be).

thanks in advance,
Jim Graham

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