Xref: utzoo news.admin:12519 news.misc:6175 comp.mail.uucp:5985 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!schoff From: schoff@uu.psi.com (Martin Schoffstall) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.misc,comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: New rules for UUPSI Message-ID: <1991Mar5.141606.1797@uu.psi.com> Date: 5 Mar 91 14:16:06 GMT References: <1991Mar04.221119.5075@utoday.com> Organization: Performance Systems International, Inc. Lines: 56 Sean, You haven't posted a lot of context from the letter or about our service model. Our goal has been and continues to be to focus on retail connections (hence our almost uniform written policy of "no" 3rd party traffic), and a flat fee ($75/mo) using local dialups, this has kept some number of sites from signing up since it was either implicit in our contracts our marketing literature and explicit in our oral communications, it was pointed out that we should make it more explicit in our written contract so we have. Other services charge by the minute, so the more you use, the happier they are, we don't, with the trebling of USENet in the last year some organizations have raised their prices, we decided not to, because in five years of operation we never have. As you know from the letter: - you got about 45 days notice in advance - you could get your money refunded - you had the option to do 3rd party traffic at a higher price - we specifically spell out that you CAN feed news to anyone else This WAS uniformly applied, this is the basis of fair business practice, and was precipitated by some very clear situations. Marty ------------------ In article <1991Mar04.221119.5075@utoday.com> sean@utoday.com (Sean Fulton) writes: >I just got a letter from PSI that is kind of disturbing. > >The thrust of this letter is that they are changing terms of user >contracts to say that since we're paying so little for a News/Mail >feed, we can't turn around and feed anyone else. > >I'm not sure how they plan to enforce this, but the new terms state >that mail for ``another organization'' can not be sent nor received >through PSI, and that if you send your UUPSI news feed to another >site, no posts from that site can come back through PSI. > >I really question their decision on this. Especially when I constantly >see PSI folk posting, ``We *are* the net'' all over the place. >Well, I never knew the net had an attitude. > >Has anyone else out there gotten this letter? > >-- >Sean Fulton sean@utoday.com >UNIX Today! (516) 562-5430 > /* The opinions expressed above are not those of my employer */