Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!utoday!info From: icl.co.nz!malcolm@uunet.UU.NET Newsgroups: comp.org.uniforum Subject: Re: Question for net.views column in UNIX Today! Message-ID: <9103040837.AA02878@icl.co.nz> Date: 4 Mar 91 17:22:31 GMT Sender: info@utoday.com (UNIX Today!) Organization: Support Unit, ICL (NZ) Ltd, Wellington, New Zealand Lines: 37 To: netviews@utoday.UUCP In-Reply-To: <1991Mar01.203755.16915@utoday.com> In article <1991Mar01.203755.16915@utoday.com> you write: >Will user organizations ever be effective in steering open systems? > > I see, still debating whether they tail can wag the dog are we? :-| I think that some of the large user organisations e.g. Boeing, General Motors, Eastman-Kodak, McDonnell Douglas, etc are having a significant impact on the direction of Open Systems. X/Open has a user council with some 29 organisations represented. Also both UNIX International and OSF have user representation. However, offhand I can't give specific examples of how users have influenced these organsations processes. Ultimately, it is the ordinary user who votes for Open Systems with his/her chequebook. The reasons they do so may have nothing to do with the principles of Open Systems (i.e. lower cost) but none-the-less their purchases have a valid effect on the momentum of Open Systems. User still have a choice between proprietary and open and the fact that open is gaining market share speaks for itself. In the final analysis, I believe that the move towards Open Systems is a complex interplay between users and vendors. It is impossible to isolate the influence of one without considering the other, and without both we simply would not have Open Systems. -- Malcolm Stayner - Open System Consultant Email: malcolm@icl.co.nz ICL New Zealand Ltd, P.O. Box 394, Wellington, N.Z. Tel: +64 (4) 724-884 "Intelligence is silence, truth is being invisible, Fax: +64 (4) 726-737 but what a racket I make in declaring this" NED ROREM --- Malcolm Stayner - Open System Consultant Email: malcolm@icl.co.nz ICL New Zealand Ltd, P.O. Box 394, Wellington, N.Z. Tel: +64 (4) 724-884 "Intelligence is silence, truth is being invisible, Fax: +64 (4) 726-737 but what a racket I make in declaring this" NED ROREM