Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga.misc:1304 comp.sys.mac.misc:9069 comp.sys.mac.games:3187 comp.sys.amiga.games:4748 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!tesst4 From: tesst4@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Tobish E Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.amiga.games Subject: Re: Mac and Amiga (Games--Macintosh vs A500) Message-ID: <98707@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 4 Mar 91 01:24:58 GMT References: <27253@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> <1991Mar3.223546.12173@rice.edu> Reply-To: tesst4@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Tobish E Smith) Organization: University of Pittsburgh, CIS Lines: 39 Wow. Bet you're going to get a lot of replies on this one! Anyway, my roommate had an Amiga 2000 w/ 40 meg HD and I have a Mac II (8 meg RAM, 100 meg HD). My personal feelings after using his extensively is that the Amgia just doesn't _feel_ right. I don't know how to quantify this. Hardware-wise, I thought, "Wow, maybe I made a mistake," since the Amiga cost so much less. But then I used the thing. A feeling of amateurishness pervaded the entire system: the keyboard, the mouse, the operating system, the speed of the hard drive. After using it, I realized _why_ the Mac costs so much more. I would have killed for this machine when I was in high school, being a way-cool hacker dude on my Apple ][. Indeed, this seems like a prime use for Amigas, based on the plethora of swollen-ego, flashy-graphics pirates' intros to crcked games ("KRACKED BY THE MUTILATOR!!!!!" in zillions of colors flashing on the screen while some rockin' tune blasts out of the speakers). And now, I suppose, I'm finally getting to the point of the posting, namely, should you get one for games use? Guess it depends on what you want to play. The upside of the Amiga, of course, is its ability to do wondrous games. The downsides are 1. the infuriatingly slow disk drives, and 2. the copy protection on _everything_. It's not bad enough that Steve's hard drive seemed scarcely faster than my floppies. We couldn't even install most games on the hard drive due to the copy-protection! Battle Squadron, a great game, took minutes to start a new game after you died. Got you pretty grumpy real quick. If you want to play adventures or RPGs (Drakken is wonderful!), and you can live with the miserable i/o speed, sure, get an Amiga. If, however, you're more interested in exploiting its abilities to control many sprites and do great arcade games, go for a Genesis, TG-16, or hell, even a Neo Geo instead. The loading of the games is instantaneous, the controllers are better, and it's cheaper (except for the NeoGeo ;-) ). In conclusion, I don't want to be too critical of the Amiga itself. The hardware inside is very nice. However, almost all aspects of the user interface (hardware and software), coupled with the slow drives, really turned me off on the machine for now. If these things improve (and if the _standard_ screen resolution ever evolves beyond 320X200) I think the Amiga will be a great machine. Oh yeah. The users should start being tres bitchy like Mac users about copy protection. The amount of CP in the Amiga world is staggering. Tob tesst4@unix.cis.pitt.edu