Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!unknown From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: SnoTerm Keywords: about Snoterm Message-ID: <13115@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 6 Mar 91 10:10:19 GMT References: <805@seer.UUCP> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing Lines: 50 In article <805@seer.UUCP> georgeb@seer.UUCP (George Bako) writes: > > I got a question about SnoTerm. Is this just another Term for Apple // >that supports vt100 emulation? Everybody is talking about it, but >if that is all it supports, then wouldn't ProTerm be better? I am >using ProTerm 2.2 and it works great. I am using vt100 emulation >right now, and I have no problems with it.. Can somebody please >tell me some info about this Snoterm? Thanks! It's a GS specific terminal program that supports VT100. I think it eventually is supposed to be a full-fledged terminal program. It runs under the desktop in a window.. (Hey, maybe when "NCSA Telnet"GS comes out, the two authors can merge the two programs and have the best of both worlds..) I use ProTERM and have never seen a program anywhere near as good as it. Ascii Express comes closest, and actually has a few things that I wish ProTERM had.. But for the most part, ProTERM is the most powerful term program I've ever seen. ProTERM's vt100 is all screwed up though. If a line goes over 80 characters, it does one of two (user definable) things: 1) keeps printing EVERYTHING at the 80th character. This is a very naughty thing.. Even though people should put returns at the end of lines, sometimes files don't have them, and it pisses me off when PRoTERM does this. 2) ProTERM puts an -extra- return in the output to your screen (that is, there is an empty line between the last line of text and the continuation). Both of these are very un-nice things to do to vi. (Among other programs) Also, as I've said before, I think people are "vt100-happy", and use it as another buzzword.. (Reminds me of that ad for some computer store or something where they have the parrot going "compatible", and the same type of thing with lots of other buzzwords.. It seems there are some people whose systems ONLY support vt100, and they need it. But I would presume most of the people that can read this are on a UNIX system which supports many different types of terminals. The one I use is "tvi912c" (the termtype on UNIX I mean), and "Televideo" on ProTERM's end. Works absolutely perfectly for me. --