Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!nic.csu.net!beach.csulb.edu!csus.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!npd.novell.com!newsun!keith From: keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell Subject: Re: NFS Support in NetWare Message-ID: <1991Feb28.211556.18428@novell.com> Date: 6 Mar 91 02:18:17 GMT Sender: news@novell.com ( Lines: 72 The News Manager) Nntp-Posting-Host: ca Reply-To: keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California References: <1991Feb21.234900.11916@novell.com> <6614@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> <6638@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 1991 21:15:56 GMT In article <6638@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> rbraun@spdcc.COM (Rich Braun) writes: > >It's not only not the cheapest, it's also quite deficient. How many >Unix people are going to like the filenaming limitations imposed by >the DOS filesystem? (eight characters, then a dot, then three more; >characters like comma and plus are restricted; etc.) My, my. You are well informed! Tell me who your informant is so I can go hit him with something. Here's an "ls -la" listing of a directory I mounted in from a NetWare NFS server. The second file on the list I put there exclusively for your benefit! total 13444 drwxrwxrwx 2 nobody 512 Feb 28 04:40 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root 1024 Feb 27 15:39 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 keith 11281200 Jan 30 13:58 10Meg -rwxr-xr-x 1 keith 1401323 Feb 28 04:37 A very large file with an extremely long name containing spaces and wierd characters just to prove it can be done $%@^*()[] -rw-rw-rw- 1 keith 2374 Jan 22 11:34 alberty.wkz -rwxrwxrwx 1 keith 1131 Oct 1 10:19 finance.wkz -rw-r--r-- 1 keith 61 Feb 27 08:05 junk -rw-r--r-- 1 keith 0 Feb 28 04:40 lsoutput -rwxrwxrwx 1 keith 1218 Jan 15 17:19 plotit -rwxr-xr-x 1 keith 1076048 Feb 27 08:29 vmunix > >My challenge was answered privately by e-mail from a Novell person who >said, in effect, laugh at us later if we don't manage to rake in the >bucks on this one. And also suggesting they're justified in setting the >price high because Unix users have come to expect NFS server capability >as standard issue, but Novell has to charge the money for NFS users because >they don't think standard Netware users should have to subsidize NFS users. Care to copy me on this alleged E-Mail? If this is in fact what a Novell employee told you, I shall make a point of straightening their view of the world personally! > >I forgot to mention in my earlier article that SCO, Sun, et al sell an >NFS _client_ along with their _server_. Is the Novell solution also >going to offer a DOS _client_ NFS package? I doubt that Novell is in >that business. Wrong again! We already offer a DOS client TCP/IP package. Although we haven't developed a client NFS piece for it ourselves, we actively refer customers who need this capability to Beame and Whiteside who have been kind enough to fill this "hole" for us with a special port of their NFS client software for DOS (using our underlying transport). > >I'd suspect a company like Atlantix should be well-positioned to mount a >serious challenge in this area. And in the finest traditions of the net, I wish them well..... I am reasonably familiar with the Atlantix offering. I'm having a little trouble with your reasoning though? > >By way of disclaimer, I'd like to point out that my company is not in the >business of providing DOS or Unix network solutions to its customers; Hmmm. This is probably just as well :-) Keith - Keith Brown Phone: (408) 473 8308 Novell San Jose Development Centre Fax: (408) 433 0775 2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131 Net: keith@novell.COM