Xref: utzoo comp.theory.dynamic-sys:181 sci.math:15612 sci.physics:17291 Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!mcnc!duke!physics!guy From: guy@physics (Guy Metcalfe) Newsgroups: comp.theory.dynamic-sys,sci.math,sci.physics Subject: Re: Intermittency Message-ID: <22050@duke.cs.duke.edu> Date: 8 Mar 91 03:11:47 GMT References: <1991Mar1.001103.6341@cec1.wustl.ed> <1991Mar6.232931.2553@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@duke.cs.duke.edu Reply-To: guy@physics.phy.duke.edu (Guy Metcalfe) Followup-To: comp.theory.dynamic-sys Organization: Duke University Physics Dept.; Durham, N.C. Lines: 65 Nntp-Posting-Host: physics.phy.duke.edu In article <1991Mar6.232931.2553@agate.berkeley.edu> william@ronzoni.berkeley.edu (W. E. Grosso) writes: >and presentation. The question : does anybody out there >know about intermittency in dynamical systems >(from what I gather, it seems to be associated with >numerical experimentation). There are indeed numerical experiments using 1- and 2-dimensional maps that exhibit intermittent behavior, but by no means is the phenomena so limited: it is observed in certain systems of differential equations, and in the lab. I am most familiar with examples from convection experiments, and, while these are the most well explored, there are other example systems. There are in fact 3 types of `classical' intermittency that are distinguished by how eigenvalues leave the unit circle in the complex plane. These were first discussed in \bibitem{Poman} Y. Pomeau and P. Manneville, Commun. Math. Phys. {\bf 74}, 189 (1980). and examples observed in convective systems by, among others, \bibitem{intermittency_folk} P. Berg\'e, M. Dubois, P. Manneville, and Y. Pomeau, J. Phys. (Paris) Lett. {\bf 41}, L341 (1980); M. Dubois, M. A. Rubio, and P. Berg\'e, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 51}, 1446 (1983); H. Haucke, R. E. Ecke, Y. Maeno, and J. C. Wheatley, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 53}, 2090 (1984). The recent book by Manneville ("Dissapative Structures and Weak Turbulence" Academic Press, 1990?) has good discussion and more references. Lately, other types of intermittency associated with chaotic dynamics have been explored. I'm thinking of the work by Grebogi, Ott, Yorke and coworkers at Maryland. Some references are \bibitem{goy} Celso Grebogi, Edward Ott, Filipe Romeiras and James A. Yorke, Phys. Rev. A {\bf 36}, 5365 (1987); Celso Grebogi, Edward Ott and James A. Yorke, Physica {\bf 7D}, 181 (1983); Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 48}, 1507 (1982). This intermittency occurs as (chaotic) attractors collide with manifolds of other objects in phase space, and then are modified/destroyed by the interaction. Read the references to find out what really is thought to happen:-). Some lab examples are \bibitem{experiment_eg} M. Iansiti, Qing Hu, R. M. Westervelt, and M. Tinkham, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 55}, 746 (1985); Didier Dangoisse, Pierre Glorieux, and Daniel Hennequin, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 57}, 2657 (1986); T. L. Carroll, L. M. Pecora, and F. J. Rachford, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 59}, 2891 (1987); W. L. Ditto, S. Rauseo, R. Cawley, C. Grebogi, G.-H. Hsu, E. Kostelich, E. Ott, H. T. Savage, R. Segnan, M. L. Spano, and J. A. Yorke, Phys. Rev. Lett. {\bf 63}, 923 (1989). And as you might guess from the bibliography entries, I plan to add to the list of experimental examples shortly. Hope your talk goes well and this info is helpful. -- Guy Metcalfe Duke University Dept. of Physics guy@phy.duke.edu & Center for Nonlinear Studies guy@physics.phy.duke.edu Durham, N.C. 27706 guy%phy.duke.edu@cs.duke.edu