Path: utzoo!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!haven!adm!cmcl2!panix!alexis From: alexis@panix.uucp (Alexis Rosen) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux Subject: Obnoxious load-dependant bug in UUCP Message-ID: <1991Mar5.102756.3379@panix.uucp> Date: 5 Mar 91 10:27:56 GMT References: <49862@apple.Apple.COM> <1991Mar5.101216.3153@panix.uucp> Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY Lines: 42 I've been using UUCP very heavily on this A/UX Mac IIx now for several months. (In fact, this may be the most heavily uucp-loaded Mac around...) As the load on the machine continues to grow, I've been noticing some fairly obnoxious behavior. When the system is fairly busy (several active users), I frequently see log entries like this: cmcl2!notes (3/4-19:24:45) (C,15402,21) IN SEND/SLAVE MODE (INPUT FAILURE) cmcl2!notes (3/4-19:24:45) (C,15402,21) FAILED (conversation complete) I'm so used to this crap that I wrote a script months ago to handle all of our polling needs, so this isn't disastrous. But it's annoying as hell and it ties up our telebit a lot more than it should (for some reason, this failure takes from 5 to 30 minutes for UUCP to notice). It also doubles or triples our phone bill, since we often need to call our feed two, three, or four times just to do one full batch of files. I don't think I've ever seen this behavior during the night, when few users are on. A rarer, but far more obnoxious bug, which I get once or twice a month, looks like this in the log file: cmcl2!jsb (3/4-19:28:07) (C,15598,0) REQUEST (S D.cmcl2BC3330 D.cmcl2BC3330 jsb) cmcl2!jsb (3/4-19:31:32) (C,15598,1) BAD READ (expected 'C' got FAIL) cmcl2!jsb (3/4-19:31:32) (C,15598,1) FAILED (conversation complete) The bitch of it is, unlike the other bug, this is NON-RECOVERABLE. The file (in this case D.cmcl2BC3330) is permanently lost, and the mail (or whatever it may be) is vanished, without even an error message to the sender. I'd like to know how many of you are being bitten by this same bug? Any ideas on workarounds? I'm not optimistic but it can't hurt to ask. Our Mac is a IIx with 8MB ram, 500MB of assorted Wren drives, and a bunch of modems and serial ports. The uucp problems always occur with our telebit, running off of a Taniwha CommCard. (I doubt the card or the telebit are responsible here though.) BTW, if anyone wants the polling script, drop me a line. It's custom-written for my system but it's pretty easily adaptible. Thanks, --- Alexis Rosen Owner/Sysadmin, PANIX Public Access Unix, NY {cmcl2,apple}!panix!alexis