Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!cbmvax!jesup From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga Subject: Re: second thoughts on buying a 3000UX Message-ID: <19512@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 5 Mar 91 03:58:08 GMT References: <61751@masscomp.westford.ccur.com> <1135@applix.com> <5PR9W6D@xds13.ferranti.com> <1145@applix.com> <13376@hubcap.clemson.edu> Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 30 In article <13376@hubcap.clemson.edu> ddyer@hubcap.clemson.edu (Doug Dyer) writes: >>If I spent all day just running X programs then the A3000 might make more >>sense. But, I spend all day compiling code. I need max. disk and cpu >>speed. 90% of the time graphics thruput contributes zip to my productivity. >>The rest of the time, I'm maybe moving windows, which the 486 can do faster >>on a 12MHz bus than the Amiga blitter on it's slow slow slow 7.14 MHz bus. > >The blitter isn't used under UNIX (see below). The CPU is. He he he Also note that most all existing VGA-etc boards have a LOT of wait- states, so regardless of CPU/bus speed, you're card-limited. The 3000 has pretty efficient access to chip memory (with the 32-bit bus). It does need to sync to the slower bus, but I wouldn't be suprised if the bandwidth available to the CPU (MB/s, gfx-mem to gfx-mem) was considerably higher on the A3000 than on most or all VGA boards. Plus you can run the blitter in parallel with the CPU - even if it's slower at some things, overall throughput is higher (and it is faster at non-nice conditions, I suspect). Also you get the the rest of the display hardware (copper, etc), which makes virtual screens easy and very fast. Note: I haven't measured these things, I'm going on reports from IBM- types about the number of wait-states to access video ram (I've heard numbers as high as 12). -- Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering. {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com BIX: rjesup The compiler runs Like a swift-flowing river I wait in silence. (From "The Zen of Programming") ;-)