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From: johnm@spudge.UUCP (John Munsch)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Re: Borland C++, are you telling me there are no WIN Classes?
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Date: 5 Mar 91 19:15:41 GMT
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Reply-To: johnm@spudge.UUCP (John Munsch)
Organization: Friends of Guru Bob
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In article <26272@rouge.usl.edu> pcb@basin04.cacs.usl.edu (Peter C. Bahrs) writes:
>This is a repost.  The responses I have received are not clear.  Does
>Borland C++ come with a set of class libraries for windows programming?
>i.e. window, button, bitmap, controls in general....  I suspect this is
>not the case.

Borland C++ does not come with class libraries for Windows programming.
Until you or someone else comes up with a class library for this you have
to make normal SDK calls.

>Which of course means that the Petzold book is not enough...all of the
>functions are not covered in here...rather I need the MSC SDK references.
>I have sdk and actor (and smalltalk), so I have the function descriptions,
>but if I just had borland c++ I would be stuck!

Not at all.  Most bookstores with a technical section have the Microsoft
Windows _Guide to Programming_ and _Programmer's Reference_ on the shelf
right now.  If you felt Petzhold was sufficient you wouldn't even need the
_Guide to Programming_ and could just purchase the reference.  If you wanted
to be really cheap you could just use the online SDK documentation that is
present in the Borland IDE and skip the reference too.

>So in summary, I have a C++ development environment that generates
>windows applications and is itself pseudo-windows compatible.  But my 
>graphics and gui development will be from scratch.

Yes.

>Is anyone working on classes?

Most people who are using it are undoubtedly doing some classes but the only
major libraries I know of are Tier and C++ Views.

>                               Will the zortech, or glockenspeil classes
>work? i.e. Can I just copy them to a new directory and compile them into
>borland c++?  Is this legal?

Um, what classes would those be?  I have Zortech C++ v2.18 and it comes with
no Windows classes.  If you are talking about the "C++ Tools" library that
Zortech sells then you will probably prefer to use the class libraries that
Borland includes for linked lists, hash tables, etc.  I think they are
considerably better designed.

John Munsch